Can someone help me understand Taylor and MacLaurin series?

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The discussion centers around understanding Taylor and MacLaurin series, including their definitions, applications, and notation. Participants explore specific examples, such as the function f(x) = cos x and the series for 1/(x^2 + 4), while seeking clarification on the foundational concepts and notation used in expressing these series.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant expresses difficulty in understanding Taylor and MacLaurin series and requests a step-by-step explanation using specific functions.
  • Another participant describes the MacLaurin series as an infinite polynomial that converges to a function, referencing the geometric series as a natural example.
  • A participant suggests that the series for 1/(x^2 + 4) can be derived from the geometric series by manipulating the expression.
  • There is a discussion about the notation for the final answer of the Taylor series, with participants sharing their understanding of how to express the series in general form.
  • One participant challenges a claim about the uniqueness of the MacLaurin series, providing an example of a function that is infinitely differentiable but whose Taylor series does not converge to the function itself.
  • Another participant notes that functions for which the Taylor series converges to the function in a neighborhood are termed "analytic."

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Participants express varying levels of understanding regarding the notation and implications of Taylor and MacLaurin series. There is no consensus on the uniqueness of the series, as one participant provides a counterexample to a claim made by another.

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Participants highlight limitations in understanding the foundational concepts and notation of Taylor and MacLaurin series. The discussion includes unresolved mathematical steps and differing interpretations of the implications of convergence.

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Readers interested in calculus, particularly those seeking to understand series expansions and their applications in mathematics and physics.

Wee Sleeket
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I am having difficulty understanding Taylor and MacLaurin series. I need someone to go through step by step and explain a problem from beginning to end. You could use the function f(x) = cos x. Also, could someone find the MacLaurin series of 1/(x^2 + 4) ? I just don't understand the basics of evaluating these problems. If someone could help, that'd be great :smile:
 
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a maclaurin series is an infinite polynomial that "converges" to your function. there is a theorem that there si at most one such series, so anyone you find by hook or crook must be it.


the most natural best possible seriews in the world is the geometric series.

i.e. a + ar + ar^2 + ar^3 +... = a/(1-r). (true for |r| < 1.)


Your problem example is so easy it actually equals a geometric series. just change

1/(4+x^2) to (1/4) [1/(1 + (x/2)^2)] = (1/4) [1/(1 -{- (x/2)^2)}] = and then you get the series

(1/4) [ 1 -(x/2)^2 +(x/2)^3 - (x/2)^4 + - ...].


Then there is a theorem that you can differentiate a convergent maclaurin series term by term. so the only possible series representing f, is

f(0) + f'(0)x + f''(0)/2 x^2 + [f'''(0)/3!] x^3 +...

But as in your case above, taking derivatives is not always the easiest way to proceed.

Remark: maclaurin had nothing to do with these things, according to reliable scholars, so let's call them all taylor series. i.e. maclaurin rediscovered a special case of taylor series, decades after taylor had already explained them in general.

try reading courants calculus book. or send me you email and i will send you my notes on the topic.
 
good old Courant!
 
I think I'm ok with finding the terms of the series... I just don't know how to notate the final answer. How would you write the final Taylor series for each one?
 
Wee Sleeket said:
I think I'm ok with finding the terms of the series... I just don't know how to notate the final answer. How would you write the final Taylor series for each one?

IF you can find a general form for f(n) at x0 (the nth derivative), Then the Taylor series is just what Mathwonk said:
f(x0) + f'(x0)(x-x0) + f''(x0)/2 (x-x0)^2 + [f'''(x0)/3!] (x-x0)^3 +...
with the general term being (f(h)/n!)(x-x0)n.

As Mathwonk said, any power series that converges to the same function must have exactly the same coefficients, so however you find the coefficients, you have the Taylor series.

By the way, one thing Mathwonk said might be misleading:
"a maclaurin series is an infinite polynomial that "converges" to your function. there is a theorem that there si at most one such series, so anyone you find by hook or crook must be it."

It is quite possible for a function, f, to be infinitely differentiable and have a Taylor's or Maclaurin series that converges for all x but doesn't converge to the function f itself! An example is f(x)= exp(-1/x2) if x is not 0, 0 if x is 0. One can show that f is continuous and, indeed, infinitely differentiable at x= 0. All derivatives at 0 are equal to 0 so it's MacLaurin series is just [itex]\Sigma 0*x^n[/itex] which is equal to 0 for all x and not to f(x).

Functions for which the Taylor series at some point does converge to f(x) for some neighborhood around the point are called "analytic". Those are just about all of the functions we work with.
 

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