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The discussion revolves around the motion of charged particles, specifically electrons, in a magnetic field, as well as centripetal motion of a marble in a vertical circular track. Participants are exploring the effects of magnetic forces on the trajectory of electrons and the forces acting on a marble completing a loop.

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  • Participants are attempting to describe the motion of electrons in a magnetic field, questioning the nature of the path taken when the angle of approach varies. There is also discussion about the forces acting on a marble in a vertical loop and the relationship between different velocities.

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Some participants have provided insights into the effects of angles on the motion of electrons and the role of magnetic forces. Others are exploring the decomposition of velocity components to understand the overall motion better. The discussion is ongoing with multiple lines of reasoning being examined.

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There are assumptions regarding the behavior of charged particles in magnetic fields and the conditions of the marble's motion, such as frictionless tracks and specific angles of approach that are being questioned.

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1)A beam of electrona travels along an evacuated tube towards a floriscent screen.A coil is placed around the tube producing magnetic field along the axis of the tube.

a)describe and explain the motion of the beam if:

1)it is exactly parallel to the axis of the tube
My working:
I think it will go in a circular but don't know why

2)If it makes a slight angle with the axis of the tube

Any kinda help wud highly be appriciated


2)A marble toy has a vertical circle of track of diameter D.V1 is the speed of approach which just allows the marble to complete the loop.

(small marble) o --------->V1 O |Diameter of big marble

a)state the force producing the centripetal acceleration at the top of the loop in this case.
ans;I think its the weight,isnt it?

b)write down an energy conservation equation relating the velocity of approach V1,and the marble's velocity at the top of the loop ,V2 .assume that the track is friction less

c)write down the centripetal force equationfor the marble at he top of the loop and rearrange it to give an expression for V2.

Any help wud highly be appriciated
 
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saltrock said:
1)A beam of electrona travels along an evacuated tube towards a floriscent screen.A coil is placed around the tube producing magnetic field along the axis of the tube.

a)describe and explain the motion of the beam if:

1)it is exactly parallel to the axis of the tube
My working:
I think it will go in a circular but don't know why

The equation for magnetic force on a charged particle is proportional to the cross product between the velocity vector and the magnetic field. What are the properties of the cross product ?
 
i figured out what to do when it is 90--the force is acting downwards..due to this force the electron follows the circular path...
what happens when it is not 90 degree

thanks in advance
 
then decompose the velocity into a component parallel to the magnetic field and another component perpendicular. You know what each component does, so you should be able to imagine what the sum does.
 

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