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srizen
Jan10-12, 05:54 PM
1. The problem statement, all variables and given/known data

i got a question on a quiz, but i really did not know how to solve it. the question that was stated was:
if \log_b x =0.8

Solve for
\log_b x(\sqrt[3]{x})


3. The attempt at a solution

basically what i attempted to do was
b0.8 = x

Logb x + Logb 3√x

Logb x + 1/3Logb x

0.8 + 1/3Logb x ?


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Mark44
Jan10-12, 06:01 PM
1. The problem statement, all variables and given/known data

i got a question on a quiz, but i really did not know how to solve it. the question that was stated was:
if Logbx = 0.8

Solve for
Logbx(3√x)
You're not solving for anything - you are evaluating this expression.

In any case, is that what you're working with?
log_b(x \sqrt[3]{x})

If so, that's different from what you wrote.



3. The attempt at a solution

basically what i attempted to do was

Make Logbx = 0.8
into b0.8 = x
then i didn't know what to do ;S.

what steps do i need to do?
how do i solve for b/x?

srizen
Jan10-12, 06:07 PM
You're not solving for anything - you are evaluating this expression.

In any case, is that what you're working with?
log_b(x \sqrt[3]{x})

If so, that's different from what you wrote.

hmm, let me scan it, i dont know how to do all these math symbols

Bread18
Jan10-12, 06:10 PM
I assume you mean log_{b}x\sqrt[3]{x}?

Try to get it so you have klog_{b}x, k constant

eumyang
Jan10-12, 06:20 PM
Try to rewrite the expression
\log_b(x \sqrt[3]{x})
as a single power, ie.
\log_b(x^a)
for some number a. You'll then need the power property of logarithms.

srizen
Jan10-12, 06:35 PM
Try to rewrite the expression
\log_b(x \sqrt[3]{x})
as a single power, ie.
\log_b(x^a)
for some number a. You'll then need the power property of logarithms.

that would be simple, but its
\log_b x( \sqrt[3]{x})

Bread18
Jan10-12, 06:41 PM
that would be simple, but its
\log_b x( \sqrt[3]{x})

Use the relationship
x^{\frac{1}{a}} = \sqrt[a]{x}

And x^{a}x^{b} = x^{a+b}

Mentallic
Jan10-12, 07:14 PM
that would be simple, but its
\log_b x( \sqrt[3]{x})

If it's supposed to be in that form as the question asks, which I suppose should mean

(\log_bx)(\sqrt[3]{x})

Then simply plug in 0.8 into the first bracket since you're already given that, and solve for x in \log_bx=0.8 to find \sqrt[3]{x}

srizen
Jan10-12, 07:44 PM
If it's supposed to be in that form as the question asks, which I suppose should mean

(\log_bx)(\sqrt[3]{x})

Then simply plug in 0.8 into the first bracket since you're already given that, and solve for x in \log_bx=0.8 to find \sqrt[3]{x}

yea thats my question, how do you solve for x

when ur given 2 variables?

b is not given :S

heres what im doing so far:


b0.8 = x

Logb x + Logb 3√x

Logb x + 1/3Logb x

0.8 + 1/3Logb x ?

Bread18
Jan10-12, 07:54 PM
yea thats my question, how do you solve for x

when ur given 2 variables?

b is not given :S

heres what im doing so far:


b0.8 = x

Logb x + Logb 3√x

Logb x + 1/3Logb x

0.8 + 1/3Logb x ?

That's right. You know log_{b}x = 0.8, so sub that in.

srizen
Jan10-12, 08:15 PM
That's right. You know log_{b}x = 0.8, so sub that in.

the only problem is that, the answer should be 1.07 =/

Mentallic
Jan10-12, 08:50 PM
yea thats my question, how do you solve for x

when ur given 2 variables?

b is not given :S

heres what im doing so far:


b0.8 = x

Logb x + Logb 3√x

Logb x + 1/3Logb x

0.8 + 1/3Logb x ?

Ok so it IS meant to be log_b(x\sqrt[3]{x}) as opposed to (log_bx)\cdot \sqrt[3]{x}

Yes, the answer is 1.07, what's the problem? 0.8 + 1/3*0.8 = ?

srizen
Jan10-12, 08:55 PM
Ok so it IS meant to be log_b(x\sqrt[3]{x}) as opposed to (log_bx)\cdot \sqrt[3]{x}

Yes, the answer is 1.07, what's the problem? 0.8 + 1/3*0.8 = ?

ohh, ok i see my mistake now :S

this is such an easy problem, i was jus over thinking >_<

Mark44
Jan10-12, 09:53 PM
Whoever wrote this problem did not communicate the problem in a clear way. The only way we could understand what was written was to reverse-engineer the solution. The problem should have been written so that it was clear what the argument of the log function was.

Mentallic
Jan10-12, 10:17 PM
ohh, ok i see my mistake now :S

this is such an easy problem, i was jus over thinking >_<
Yep :wink:

Whoever wrote this problem did not communicate the problem in a clear way. The only way we could understand what was written was to reverse-engineer the solution. The problem should have been written so that it was clear what the argument of the log function was.
I was about to ask for the solution if the OP didn't already provide it. This confusion was unnecessarily getting out of hand...

edit: the answer was written in the attachment. To be honest, it looked like effort to try and understand what was happening on that page so I gave up!