Tsunami increased the speed of our planet

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The discussion centers around the claim that a tsunami has increased the speed of Earth's rotation by 3 microseconds and caused a shift of 2.5 cm in its orbit. Participants explore the implications of this claim, the physics behind changes in Earth's rotation, and the accuracy of media reporting on such scientific topics.

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Main Points Raised

  • Some participants mention that earthquakes can redistribute Earth's mass, potentially affecting its rotation, but argue that the rotation momentum remains constant due to Newton's laws.
  • One participant suggests that the 3 microseconds mentioned in the original claim is small compared to other natural sources that cause a loss of 20 microseconds per day.
  • Questions arise about what is meant by "speed of the planet," with some clarifying that it likely refers to Earth's rotation speed.
  • Another participant humorously notes the inappropriateness of consulting medical experts on a physics-related topic.
  • There is mention of a potential introduction of a leap second due to changes in angular velocity, though the details are uncertain.
  • One participant points out a possible contradiction between different articles discussing changes in Earth's rotation, suggesting confusion in the media reporting.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express uncertainty regarding the accuracy of the original claim and the implications of changes in Earth's rotation. There is no consensus on the interpretation of the effects of the tsunami or the reliability of the media sources discussing these phenomena.

Contextual Notes

The discussion highlights limitations in understanding the effects of natural events on Earth's rotation, including assumptions about mass distribution and the definitions of speed being used.

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Readers interested in the physics of Earth's rotation, the impact of natural disasters on planetary dynamics, and the accuracy of scientific communication in media may find this discussion relevant.

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i have read yesterday in one of our local newspapers that some physicians said that tsumani increased the speed of our planet (3 microseconds) and this caused a move of 2.5 cm of the Earth from its orbit. though it's not a big deal but this can rarely happen. for whom have got somthg to say about that or have got info to add please asap.
 
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Sabine,

Earthquakes redistribute the Earth’s mass on a global scale.
Eventually, after an earthquake the Earth mass can be slightly closer to the Earth axis of rotation than before the earthquake.

Despite these changes, the rotation momentum of the Earth will not change.
This is a consequence of the Newton's law of motion.
Without external forces on a mechanical system, the rotation momentum never changes.
During an earthquake, internal forces are on display, but no external forces.

The rotation momentum that doesn't change is given by [tex]R=I\omega[/tex].

[tex]I[/tex] is the moment of inertia which represents the distribution of mass around the axis of rotations of the earth.
[tex]I[/tex] decreases when the mass gets closer to the axis of rotation.

[tex]\omega={2\pi}/{T}[/tex] is the angular rotation speed of the earth. (T is the period of rotation: roughly 86400 seconds)
[tex]\omega[/tex] increases when [tex]I[/tex] decreases, to keep [tex]R[/tex] constant.

The relation between mass distribution and angular speed is well known, see http://www.exploratorium.edu/snacks/momentum_machine.html for a famous school experiment.
On wikipedia you can find the maths behind the conservation of rotation momentum: look here .
If you want some specialised information, http://www.ecgs.lu/pdf/jlg92/JLG92_Gross.pdf
You can also find details on the Earth rotation http://www.agu.org/reference/gephys/24_dickey.pdf .

If you can have fun with calculations, you could try to re-evaluate the 3µs you mentioned in your question.
To do this, you will need the moment of inertia of the earth, an evaluation of the mass displaced (assume a Earth crust thickness of 5km and a density of 5 maybe, and some geographical area), an evaluation of the displacement in direction of the axis of rotation.

The last reference explain other sources of changes in the Earth rotation speed. The 3 µs are small in comparison.

Have fun !
 
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yes, the other natural sources cause a loss of 20 microseconds per day (as compared to the same day on the previous year). this ads .73 sec to the unfortunate idea called "time" every year.

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"speed of the planet" which speed?
 
"speed of the planet" which speed?

KingNothing,

Your question is right and it points us to the approximate way newspapers and other media usually talk about physics and science.

However, it is quite clear that only the Earth rotation speed can be involved here.

Michel
 
Sabine said:
i have read yesterday in one of our local newspapers that some physicians said that tsumani increased the speed of our planet (3 microseconds)


Why are they talking to medical experts? You should listen to physicists! :biggrin:
 
Don't have much info, but heard from a friend that because of a slightly increased angular velocity an extra leap second will be introduced at the start of next year. (Or it could be a second taken away, which would be more likely.)
 
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Perhaps the article you read was talking about the same phenomenon spoken of in this post , although that story is talking about the Earth's rotation slowing down by 3 microseconds, as a result of the crust being raised up.

The newspaper article cited in the original post seems to be talking about a faster orbit, while the other thread discusses a slower axial rotation. It would not surprise me if both of these articles were talking about the same phenomenon, and getting the fats mixed up.
 

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