Completing the Square: x^2+2x+5 is Always Positive

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The discussion revolves around the expression x^2 + 2x + 5 and the task of showing that it is positive for all real values of x by completing the square. The original poster expresses confusion about the question and the meaning of "real values of x."

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  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning

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  • The original poster attempts to complete the square and arrives at (x+1)^2 + 4 but is uncertain about the next steps. Some participants discuss the implications of the completed square form and its positivity, while others question the relevance of calculating the discriminant in this context.

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Participants are exploring different interpretations of the problem and providing insights into the positivity of the expression. Some guidance has been offered regarding the nature of the completed square and its implications for the graph of the function, though there is no explicit consensus on the approach to take.

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There is mention of the problem being related to the discriminant, which may influence the understanding of the expression's behavior. The original poster's confusion about the terminology used in the question is also noted.

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Again , its another case of "dont understand the question" (how the hell am i ever going to get the answer :smile: )

Anway, on with the question (it seems simple...):

"By completing the square, show that [tex]x^2+2x+5[/tex] is positive for all real values of [tex]x[/tex] "

I have completed the square, my answer:

[tex](x+1)^2+4[/tex]

But i don't know what to do next.(the question is in the section of the "discriminant" (b^2-4ac = or > or < 0) by the way )

I think what I am having a hard time with is "real values of x" .What does hat mean?

I would be gratefull for any help, at all!

Regards,
Mo
 
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hai
since your answer is a sum of a positive number (4) and square of a function (x+1) with x belonging to the set of real numbers (all integers,fractions both positive and negative ... or simply
any number which can be plotted on the real axis) that expression will never be negative.
now since this question appears in the discriminant section... we can find b2-4ac of this... which turn out to be negative ...
no real roots ...
implies that the graph y= x^2+2x+5 (which is a parabola facing upwards) never cuts the x-axis .
ie for no value of x the function y has a negative value
...a lengthy proof for a simple problem isn't it ?

regards
Mahesh :smile:
 
After completing the expression to the square, it's not wise to determine the discriminant, because if you were to calculate the discriminant, there is no point in completing the expression to the square.

The completed square form is (x+1)^2 + 4

If you replace (x+1) by (p), you will get p^2 + 4

so, let y = p^2 + 4....[1]

From [1], you can draw a sketch of the shape of the curve. You will see that the curve is a parabola above the X-Axis. Then you just explain that values of y are always positive for all real values of x
 
Thank you both.I understand it fully now :)

Regards,
Happy-Mo
 

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