Galactic Encounters, Apollo Objects & Atlantis: Catastrophe in Human History

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The discussion revolves around the hypothesis of catastrophic events in human history, particularly focusing on the interactions between Earth and extraterrestrial bodies like comets and Apollo objects. Participants explore the implications of these interactions on climate, civilization development, and historical narratives, including the story of Atlantis and flood myths.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant summarizes a hypothesis suggesting that the last glaciation was initiated and ended by collisions with extraterrestrial bodies, proposing that this led to the rise of advanced civilizations in lower latitudes.
  • Another participant mentions underwater archaeological findings near Cuba, speculating on their significance and connection to historical narratives.
  • A different viewpoint critiques the blending of fact and fiction in historical interpretations, emphasizing the need for objective evidence.
  • One participant expresses personal confusion about galactic movement and acknowledges gaps in their understanding of how the galaxy operates, questioning their previous assumptions.
  • Concerns are raised about the accessibility of findings related to the Cuban discoveries, with speculation about political barriers affecting scientific exploration.
  • Links to previous discussions on the Cuban findings are provided for further exploration of the topic.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express a range of views, with some supporting the catastrophic hypothesis and others questioning the validity of the claims made. The discussion remains unresolved, with multiple competing perspectives on the significance of the findings and their implications for history.

Contextual Notes

Some claims rely on interpretations of historical texts and archaeological evidence that may lack consensus or definitive support. The discussion also highlights uncertainties regarding the status of ongoing research and findings in the Caribbean.

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Galactic Encounters, Apollo Objects and Atlantis:
A Catastrophical Scenario for Discontinuities in Human History

Summary: Recent findings about interactions of the Earth with extraterrestrial bodies, particularly comets and Apollo-like objects, are reviewed, with special attention to climatological effects. We discuss the hypothesis that the last glaciation was started by a collision over a continent and was terminated by a collision over an ocean. We propose that during the glaciation sufficiently good climatic conditions in the lower latitudes made possible for mankind to develop a high level of civilization. The Platonic story of Atlantis is interpreted as an essentially correct description of a political power active in the final period of the last glaciation. Arguments are given to identify the island of Atlantis with Hispaniola. The catastrophe which destroyed the Atlantis civilisation is identified with the oceanic collision which terminated the glaciation. In this framework we also propose a new interpretation of the flood stories in the Bible and in the Gilgamesh epics, and of the origin of the Camunian civilisation. [continued][
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This is fascinating reading, I have to finish it tomorrow. But, these guys must have, or someone must have gotten up a posse to check out the Caribbean for signs. I remember a report of an underwater set of pyramids, 2000 feet down, off the coast of Cuba from summer before last.

I live in Utah, a part of the Mormon theology is that The Garden Of Eden is on the Mississippi River.

I am not of that faith, but the idea is now not as far fetched as it once seemed to me.
 
Pseudoscientific cliches are born, when fact and fiction collide.

Joining up the dots of documents which were not intended to be primarily historical, especially their most extraordinary claims, does not make them more, or less true. A meta-fiction is still fiction without hard, objective facts.
 
Oh yes that is true, but you have to wonder, will we see a license to think, and those without it, won't be able to speak?

I just thought this was fascinating, and it shows to me some gaps in my understanding of how our galaxy works. For instance, I am not afraid to say, that I thought the spiral galaxy, all moved together, as a singular entity; and our place where ever we are, is somewhat fixed in relation to the rest of our galaxy. So this idea of transiting an arm of the galaxy makes me realize that I have some huge misunderstandings.
Or do I?

There were some huge archeological findings off the coast of Cuba, summer before last. I have looked and looked for anything definitive and less sensational and sketchy, but nothing is to be found on this story.
 
On Cuba, I'm not sure what has happened there. It seems that Castro was causing problems of some sort. National Geographic was slated to start filming, and they were either denied access or waiting for permission to start, that last that I heard. Still, it has been so long that I'm starting to wonder if the initial findings were not so clear after all. We will see... I think the scientists involved had a webpage for this. I will check later.
 

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