What is the Limit for Today's Test on Logarithms and Trigonometry?

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The discussion revolves around determining the conditions under which the limit \[ \lim_{x \rightarrow 0_{+}} \frac{ \log \left( \sqrt{1 + x^2} - x \right) - \sin \left( x^{\alpha} \right)}{x^{\alpha}} \] exists and is finite, specifically exploring different values of \(\alpha\) in the real numbers. The scope includes mathematical reasoning and limit evaluation.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant suggests starting with the case \(\alpha = 0\) and asks for calculations related to that limit.
  • Another participant provides a detailed approach for \(\alpha = 0\) and concludes that the limit is \(0\) under the assumption that \(\alpha < 0\) is necessary for finiteness.
  • A different participant evaluates the limit for \(\alpha = 0\) and finds it to be \(-\sin(1)\), indicating a different interpretation of the limit's behavior.
  • For \(\alpha > 0\), one participant proposes using L'Hôpital's rule and outlines three cases:
    • For \(\alpha > 1\), the limit is \(-\infty\).
    • For \(\alpha = 1\), the limit is \(-2\).
    • For \(0 < \alpha < 1\), the limit is \(-1\).
  • There is a suggestion to consider the case when \(\alpha < 0\), indicating that further exploration is needed.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express differing views on the limit's behavior for various values of \(\alpha\), with no consensus reached on the overall conditions for the limit's existence and finiteness.

Contextual Notes

Participants have not fully resolved the implications of their calculations, and there are unresolved assumptions regarding the behavior of the logarithmic and sine functions as \(x\) approaches \(0\).

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Hi all,

could you help me with the limit we had in today test please? Here it is:

Find out, for which [itex]\alpha \in \mathbb{R}[/itex] the limit exists and is finite:

[tex] \lim_{x \rightarrow 0_{+}} \frac{ \log \left( \sqrt{1 + x^2} - x \right) - \sin \left( x^{\alpha} \right)}{x^{\alpha}}[/tex]

and find the limit for those [itex]\alpha[/itex]

I tried it, but I had too many questionable steps there, so I won't post it here till I find out what is the right solution :smile:

Thank you.
 
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Let's take it gradually:
Let's take the most simple case,viz.[itex]\alpha =0[/itex]

Can u compute the limit in that case??


Daniel.

PS.Provide the calculations and the result.
 
Ok, here is how I did it:

[tex] \lim_{x \rightarrow 0_{+}} \frac{ \log \left( \sqrt{1 + x^2} - x \right) - \sin \left( x^{\alpha} \right)}{x^{\alpha}} = [/tex]

[tex] \lim_{x \rightarrow 0_{+}} \frac{ \log \left( 1 + \left(\sqrt{1 + x^2} - x - 1 \right) \right) }{x^{\alpha} \left( \sqrt{1 + x^2} - x - 1 \right)} . \lim_{x \rightarrow 0_{+}} \left( \sqrt{1 + x^2} - x - 1 \right) - \lim_{x \rightarrow 0_{+}} \frac{\sin \left( x^{\alpha} \right)}{x^{\alpha}} = [/tex]

[tex] 0.\lim_{x \rightarrow 0_{+}} \frac{1}{x^{\alpha}} - \lim_{x \rightarrow 0_{+}} \frac{\sin \left( x^{\alpha} \right)}{x^{\alpha}}[/tex]

In this place I thought that [itex]\alpha[/itex] must be < 0 so that the limit will be finite (because of the [itex]\frac{1}{x^{\alpha}}[/itex] limit). Then my steps are ok and in result the limit is 0 :smile:
 
[tex] L=\lim_{x \rightarrow 0_{+}} \frac{ \ln \left( \sqrt{1 + x^2} - x \right) - \sin \left( x^{\alpha} \right)}{x^{\alpha}}[/tex]

Case a)[itex]\alpha =0[/itex]
Then
[tex]x^{\alpha}=1;\sin(x^{\alpha})=\sin 1[/tex]

The limit becomes:
[tex]L=\lim_{x\searrow 0} \ln(\sqrt{1+x^{2}}-x) -\sin 1=0-\sin 1=-\sin 1[/tex] (1)

Case b)[itex]\alpha >0[/itex]
Then u can apply August L'Ho^spital rule to get:

[tex]\lim_{x\searrow 0} \frac{x-\sqrt{1+x^{2}}}{\alpha\sqrt{1+x^{2}}(\sqrt{1+x^{2}}-x) x^{\alpha -1}}-1[/tex] (2)

U have 3 cases:

b1)[itex]\alpha>1[/itex]
The limit is:
[tex]L=-\infty[/tex] (3)

b2)[itex]\alpha=1[/itex]
The limit is:
[tex]L=-1-1=-2 [/itex] (4)<br /> <br /> b3)[itex]0< \alpha <1[/itex]<br /> The limit is:<br /> [tex]L=0-1=-1 [/itex] (5)<br /> <br /> I let u now consider the case "c)",when [itex]\alpha < 0[/itex].<br /> <br /> Daniel.[/tex][/tex]
 

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