Theorems Related to Max Sums & Perimeters/Areas of Circles

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The discussion revolves around two mathematical problems: determining the maximum sum of the form \(\frac{1}{p} + \frac{1}{q} + \frac{1}{r}\) for positive integers \(p\), \(q\), and \(r\), and finding the maximum perimeter and area of inscribed quadrilaterals and triangles within a circle of fixed radius \(r\).

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Assumption checking, Problem interpretation

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants explore the possibility of established theorems related to the problems, with some questioning the solvability of the second problem. There are attempts to apply trigonometric functions to find the area of inscribed shapes, and a specific suggestion is made regarding the maximum area of an inscribed quadrilateral.

Discussion Status

The discussion is ongoing, with participants sharing insights and attempting to clarify the problems. Some guidance has been offered regarding the area of inscribed shapes, but there is no explicit consensus on the solutions to either problem.

Contextual Notes

Participants note the potential lack of established theorems for the problems presented, and there is an indication of uncertainty about the feasibility of solving the second problem. Additionally, there are references to specific values related to the first problem, but these are not confirmed.

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I need to know the names of theorems related to the following two problems:

1. What is the maximum sum less than 1 but more than 0 that can be formed from [tex]\frac{1}{p} + \frac{1}{q} + \frac{1}{r}[/tex], where p, q and r are positive integers?

2. What is the maximum perimeter and area of an inscribed quadrilateral and triangle in a circle with a fixed radius r?
 
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I realize that there may be no established theorems for the above 2 problems, so can anyone please suggest how I can go about solving them?
 
OK, I'm going to shamelessly bump this. *BUMP*

Can someone tell me if it is even possible to solve the second problem? The first one has been solved already.
 
Hi,
I am trying to find the maximum perimeter an inscribed quadrilateral, but I haven't succeeded yet.
About the maximum area an inscribed quadrilateral, I suggest you using:
[tex]S_{ABC} = \frac{1}{2} \times AB \times AC \times \sin{BAC}[/tex]
Call A, B, C, D the points on the circle.
Try to figure out the [tex]S_{AOB}, S_{BOC}, S_{COD}, S_{DOA}[/tex] using the above function.
OA = OB = OC = OD = R
And [tex]\sin{90} = 1 \mbox{is max}[/tex]
So an inscribed quadrilateral has the max erea is the inscribed square.
That's it.
Hope it help, :smile:
PS: Can you give me the answer for number 1?
Is it
[tex]\frac{41}{42}[/tex]?
Thanks,
Viet Dao,
 
VietDao29 said:
PS: Can you give me the answer for number 1?
Is it
[tex]\frac{41}{42}[/tex]?
Thanks,
Viet Dao,

Thanks for the help. :smile: And yes, that is the answer to question 2, not 1.
 

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