1/7 in decimal form is .142857

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The discussion revolves around the decimal representation of the fraction 1/7 and its properties, particularly focusing on the repeating decimal 0.142857 and its relationship with other fractions like 2/7, 3/7, etc. Participants explore the concept of cyclic numbers and the mathematical reasoning behind the patterns observed in these decimal expansions.

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  • Some participants note that 1/7 in decimal form is 0.142857, and that 2/7 and 3/7 are rearrangements of these digits.
  • Others clarify that the notation for 1/7 is 0.(142857), indicating an infinite repeating decimal, while challenging the interpretation of rearrangement.
  • A participant discusses the modular arithmetic involved in calculating the decimal digits, suggesting that the behavior of the remainders leads to the repeating cycle.
  • Another participant introduces the concept of cyclic numbers and explains how the decimal representation relates to the division process and modular arithmetic.
  • Some participants mention the divisibility of 142857 by 999 and explore the implications of this property in relation to the repeating decimal.

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There is no consensus on the interpretation of the rearrangement of digits or the implications of the cyclic nature of the numbers. Participants present differing views on the significance of the decimal representations and their mathematical properties.

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Some discussions involve assumptions about the properties of numbers and modular arithmetic that are not fully resolved. The relationship between the repeating decimals and their representations in terms of fractions may depend on specific definitions and interpretations.

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1/7 in decimal form is .142857
2/7 is a rearangement of those numbers, 3/7 is too etc. anyone know why? (btw 142857 is divible by 999)
 
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[tex]\frac{1}{7} = 0. \dot1 4285 \dot7[/tex]

[tex]\frac{2}{7} = 0.\dot2 8571 \dot4[/tex]

[tex]\frac{3}{7} = 0.\dot4 2857 \dot1[/tex]

[tex]\frac{4}{7} = 0.\dot5 7142\dot8[/tex]

[tex]\frac{5}{7} = 0.\dot7 1428\dot5[/tex]

[tex]\frac{6}{7} = 0.\dot8 5714\dot2[/tex]

The pattern that I can see is that as the nominator increases the first number increases within the numbers there are. 1 then 2 then 4 then 5 etc... Also all the numbers stay in order. Why, though, I do not know.

The Bob (2004 ©)
 
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T@P said:
1/7 in decimal form is .142857
2/7 is a rearangement of those numbers, 3/7 is too etc. anyone know why? (btw 142857 is divible by 999)

Nope.1/7 is:
[tex]\frac{1}{7}=0.(142857)[/tex] (1)
,which is a totally different number from the one u've written.Yours is
[tex]0.142757=\frac{142857}{1000000}[/tex](2)
and has 6 decimals,while mine is
[tex]0.(142857)=\frac{142857}{999999}=\frac{1}{7}[/tex](3)
and has an infinite number of decimals.

What do u mean by rearrangement??


Daniel.
PS.From (3) u get
[tex]142857\cdot 7=999999=999\cdot 1001=999\cdot 7\cdot 11\cdot 13[/tex]
,from which u get the decomposition of 142857 in prime factors.
 
i meant rearangement of the first 6 digits, since they repeat you can think of it as 142857/999999, and incidentaly it reduces. actually i think that explains why its divisible by 999.
 
The same holds for any number [itex]n[/itex] which has the property that [itex]\frac{1}{n}[/itex] has [itex]n-1[/itex] repeating digits.
Here's what happens:
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     1 = 1 mod 7
    10 = 3 mod 7
   100 = 2 mod 7
  1000 = 6 mod 7
 10000 = 4 mod 7
100000 = 5 mod 7
And, calculating the digits after the decimal point is very much like multiplying the denominator by 10, and calculating the last digit and a new remainder, so you cycle through the six possible remainders.
 
NateTG has it pretty well figured out, but I never did see until now. By the way, they are called cyclic numbers and can be googled.

We have [tex]1/7 = \overline{.142857}[/tex]. (Where the overline means the period is repeated and repeated)

The first decimal,1, represents how many times 7 goes into 10 whole , 14 represents how many times 7 goes whole into 100, 142 for 1000, etc.

Thus if we look at 100/7 = [tex]14\overline{.285714}[/tex]

But 100/7 = 14 +2/7, so we end up with 2/7= [tex]\overline{.285714}[/tex]

Thus as NateTG tells us to get the full array we need to have a cycle of N-1 digits, where 10^(N-1)==1 Mod N. This will only possibly occur when N = p, a prime.

For example, let's look at 1/21 = [tex]\overline{.047619}[/tex]

The powers of 10^x modulo 21 are 1,10,16,13,4,19,1...for x=0,1,2,3,4,5,6...

i.e. 10^6 == 10^0==1 Modulo 21, and the series has finished.

Thus the cycle will repeat for some numbers, say, 16/21 = [tex]\overline{.761904}[/tex]

But, of course, since there are only 6 possibilities, some numbers will not cycle that way, for example we have 2/21 = [tex]\overline{.095238}[/tex]
 
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