How Can I Solve These Thermal Physics Problems?

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The discussion revolves around thermal physics problems involving an aluminum cube's heating and the work done on an ideal gas during compression. The original poster seeks clarification on their calculations and understanding of the concepts involved.

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  • The original poster attempts to apply formulas related to work and internal energy but expresses uncertainty about their correctness. Some participants question the assumptions regarding volume change and the appropriateness of the formulas used for isothermal processes.

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The discussion is ongoing, with participants providing feedback on the original poster's approach. There is a mix of agreement and differing opinions on the formulas being used, indicating a productive exploration of the problem without a clear consensus on the correctness of the solutions presented.

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The original poster mentions that their teacher is not overly strict about final answers but emphasizes understanding the reasoning behind the solutions. This context may influence the nature of the feedback being sought.

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Hi, I'm a high school physics student, and I'm having problems with two questions:

1. An aluminum cube 20 cm on a side is heated from 50° C to 150° C in a chamber at atmospheric pressure. Determine the work done by the cube and the change in its internal energy. If the same process was carried out in a vacuum, what would be the change in internal energy?
2. Determine the amount of work needed to compress 4.0 g of oxygen at STP down to 1/3 its original volume, keeping the temperature constant. Assume it behaves as an ideal gas.

I tried to solve them myself, and my work is shown below, but I do not think the answers are correct. If anybody could please guide me, or correct me, that would be very helpful. If there's an error, could you please explain why it is wrong? I would really like to know what I am doing, and not just get the right answers. Thank you.

Here are my solutions (that I am not sure of):
1. W = PV
1 atm = 1.01x10^5 Pa (process is isobaric; pressure is constant.)
Volume = 20 cm^3 = 20 cm^3 x (1 m^3/100 cm^3) = 8x10^-3 m^3
W = (1.01x10^5 Pa)(8x10^-3 m^3)
= 808 J
Work is 808 Joules

U = Q - W
Q = cmT
Specific heat capacity (c) of aluminum is 900 J/(kg)(K)
Mass (m) is 0.0269 kg (26.9 g/1000)
150 degrees - 50 degrees = 100 degrees = 373 K
Q = (900 J/(kg)(K))(.0269kg)(373 K)
= 9030 J
U = Q - W
= 9030 J - 808 J
= 8222 J
Change in internal pressure is 8222 J

If the process was carried out in a vacuum, the work (w) would be zero. Thus, the internal energy would be the Q - 0, which is equal to 9030 J.

2. STP constants: V = 22.4 L and P = 1.01x10^5 Pa
W = nRTV(f)/V(I) or PV(V(f))/(V(I))
N = number of moles = 4 g * (1 mole/16 g) = .25 mole
Volume = .25 mole * (22.4 L/1 mole) = 5.6 L
W = PV(F)/(I)
= (1.01x10^5 Pa)(5.6 L)(1)/3
= 1.8x10^5 J
 
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[tex]W = P \Delta V[/tex]

You don't do work unless you change the volume. Does the volume change ?
 
You're using the wrong formula for Isothermal Work done. Check the formula.
 
Oh, really? I'm just using the formulas my teacher provided...

I would just like to know whether or not these solutions are possible. My physics teacher says she's not too picky about the final answer; she just wants to see how we got to our solutions. So, I would mainly like to know whether or not you guys think that these solutions are possible or if they're completely wrong.
 
I think his using correct formula, but first you must find the volume change:
[itex]\frac {P_1 V_1} {T_1} = \frac {P_2 V_2} {T_2}[/itex]
 
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