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The problem involves a solid spherical conductor containing two non-concentric cavities, each housing a point charge. The total charge on the conductor is zero, and there is a third charge located at a distance from the conductor. Participants are discussing the forces acting on the charges and the conductor itself, as well as the implications of Gauss's law in this context.

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  • Participants are exploring the application of Gauss's law to determine the electric field and forces on the charges and the conductor. Questions are raised about the electric field within the cavities and the induced charges on the conductor's walls. There is also discussion about the implications of Newton's third law in this scenario.

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Some participants have provided guidance on using Gauss's law to find the electric field and forces, while others are questioning the assumptions regarding the electric field within the cavities. There is an ongoing exploration of the relationships between the forces acting on the different charges and the conductor.

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Participants are considering the implications of the total charge being zero on the conductor and how this affects the electric field within the cavities. There is a focus on the conditions under which the approximations hold, particularly regarding the distance from the charges.

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Hi all, I need help on the following problem:

A solid spherical conductor S contains 2 small spherical cavities (not-concentric). The total charge on the conductor is zero, but at the center of each cavity there are two point charges q1 and q2 respectively. At large distance r away from the center of the sphere, there is a third charge Q. What force exists on each of the four objects in this problem: Q, S, q1, and q2? Which answers, if any, are approximate and depend on r being relatively large?

Thanks.
 
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meteorologist1 said:
Hi all, I need help on the following problem:

A solid spherical conductor S contains 2 small spherical cavities (not-concentric). The total charge on the conductor is zero, but at the center of each cavity there are two point charges q1 and q2 respectively. At large distance r away from the center of the sphere, there is a third charge Q. What force exists on each of the four objects in this problem: Q, S, q1, and q2? Which answers, if any, are approximate and depend on r being relatively large?

Thanks.

For the problem I'll call the S system: S, q1, q2.

Can you use Gauss' law to find the electric field due to the S system (the whole thing cavities charges and all) at a distance r? Use this to get the force on Q.

What is the electric field in a cavity in a conductor? This should give you the force on q1 and q2.

Finally, by Newton's third law, I'd say that the force on Q by the S system=force on the S system by Q. So this gives the total force acting on S,q1,q2 together. Subtract the force acting on q1, and the force acting on q2, and you get the force acting on S alone.
 
Ok, so by Gauss's Law I would have E = (q1+q2)/(4pi epsilon r^2). So the force on Q would be F = QE.

The electric field in q1's cavity would be E = -q1/(4pi epsilon s^2), where s is the radius of the cavity? I think that a charge of -q1 would be induced on the inner wall of the conductor, but I'm not sure. Similarly for q2.

Please correct me if there's a problem. Thanks.
 
meteorologist1 said:
Ok, so by Gauss's Law I would have E = (q1+q2)/(4pi epsilon r^2). So the force on Q would be F = QE.

The electric field in q1's cavity would be E = -q1/(4pi epsilon s^2), where s is the radius of the cavity? I think that a charge of -q1 would be induced on the inner wall of the conductor, but I'm not sure. Similarly for q2.

Please correct me if there's a problem. Thanks.

You've got the force on Q right.

You've got the right idea for the electric field in the cavities. But what you need is the electric field created by all the charges except the one in the cavity. I apologize, I didn't mention this in my previous post. You get the total electric field created by all charges except q1. Multiply by q1, to get the force on q1.

When you have a cavity in a conductor, all charges outside the cavity create a total of 0 electric field inside the cavity. Your textbook might have a proof of this.

So force on q1=0. force on q2=0.

The force on S=(force on Q)-0-0=force on Q (which you already know).
 

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