How Do You Convert a Transformed Function into Standard Form?

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The discussion revolves around the transformation of a function, specifically converting a transformed function into standard form. The original poster presents a function involving a square root and seeks assistance in identifying the base function and describing the transformations applied to it.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Problem interpretation

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • The original poster attempts to identify the base function as \sqrt{x} and describes various transformations, including vertical and horizontal shifts, reflections, and stretches. They express uncertainty about rewriting the function in the required form and question the correctness of their approach.
  • Some participants suggest alternatives for expressing the function, including using functional notation and exploring algebraic manipulations to clarify the transformations.
  • There is a discussion about the interpretation of the square root in the context of the transformations and how to represent it in the desired format.

Discussion Status

The discussion is ongoing, with participants exploring different interpretations and approaches to rewriting the function. Some guidance has been offered regarding the use of functional notation, but there is no explicit consensus on the correct form yet.

Contextual Notes

Participants are working under the constraints of homework guidelines that require specific forms for functions and transformations. There is a noted confusion regarding the placement of the square root and how it relates to the standard form requested.

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Rewrite Function PLZ HELP

I have a question for translation of functions
it says the equation of the image is [tex]-2 \sqrt(3x-12) -5[/tex]
(note: sorry the square root should be over all of the 3x and -12 only -5 is outside of square root)
1) the first questions said what is the base function? I wrote [tex]\sqrt(x)[/tex]

2) the second question said describe the series of transformations, so i wrote
Vertical stretch by a factor of 2, horizontal compression by a factor of 1/3, reflection in the x-axis, vertical translation 5 units down, horizontal translation 4 units left.

3) It says write the function into y=af[k(x-p)]+q form
I got [tex]-2\sqrt(3(x-(-4)) -5[/tex] (note: again square root is over everything in brackets except -5 )but i think this is wrong since there is a square root in my answer and no square root in the form that they want. Can someone help me out please :cry: Is only number 3 wrong? How do I rewrite the equation in the correct form?
 
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The only problem I can see with your #3 is that it should be (x-4), not (x-(-4)).

I only see one way to get rid of the square root, and that's more of a trick than anything else, but given the rest of your question it just may be what you need.

Let f(x) = your base function, [tex]\sqrt{x}[/tex]. Then your function would be

[tex]y = 2\sqrt{3} f(x - 4) - 5[/tex]

The square root is still there, it's just hidden in the "f(x)".

Does that look possible?
 
I don't understand
 
All I've done is replace the [tex]\sqrt{x}[/tex] with an f(x). If you replace the functional notation in my expression with [tex]\sqrt{x-4}[/tex] and carry through the algebra, you should end up with your original expression.

I'm not entirely certain that's what you're looking for, but it's the only way I can see to make the square root go away. It seems like you have access to the answer - can you post that? It may make it easier to see exactly what you need to do.
 
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aisha said:
I have a question for translation of functions
it says the equation of the image is [tex]-2 \sqrt(3x-12) -5[/tex]
(note: sorry the square root should be over all of the 3x and -12 only -5 is outside of square root)
1) the first questions said what is the base function? I wrote [tex]\sqrt(x)[/tex]

2) the second question said describe the series of transformations, so i wrote
Vertical stretch by a factor of 2, horizontal compression by a factor of 1/3, reflection in the x-axis, vertical translation 5 units down, horizontal translation 4 units left.

3) It says write the function into y=af[k(x-p)]+q form
I got [tex]-2\sqrt(3(x-(-4)) -5[/tex] (note: again square root is over everything in brackets except -5 )but i think this is wrong since there is a square root in my answer and no square root in the form that they want. Can someone help me out please :cry: Is only number 3 wrong? How do I rewrite the equation in the correct form?

How about writing it like that
[tex]y(x)=-2\sqrt{3x-12}-5=-2\sqrt{3(x-4)}-5=-2\sqrt{3}\sqrt{x-4}-5[/tex]

which can be put under the form
[tex]y(x)=Af(x-4)-5[/tex]
where
[tex]A=-2\sqrt{3}[/tex]
[tex]f(x)=\sqrt{x}[/tex]

What do you say now...??

Daniel.
 

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