Can't figure out where to go with this (Centripital Acceleration)

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The discussion revolves around a physics problem involving centripetal acceleration, specifically analyzing the forces acting on a car as it passes over a hump in a circular path. The problem includes calculating the force exerted by the road on the car at the highest point of the hump and determining the maximum speed before losing contact with the road.

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  • Participants explore the relationship between gravitational force and centripetal force, with attempts to apply Newton's second law. Questions arise about the correctness of their calculations and the conceptual understanding of forces acting on the car.

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Some participants have provided calculations and expressed uncertainty about their correctness. There is an acknowledgment of the relationship between normal force and centripetal force, with one participant clarifying the conceptual framework without reaching a consensus on the final answers.

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An 1800 kg car passes over a hump in a road that follows the arc of a circle of radius 42 m.

a. What force does the road exert on the car as the car passes the highest point of the hump if the car travels at 16 m/s?

b. What is the maximum speed the car can have as it passes this highest point before losing contact with the road?

Now for my work

a.

F = ma

F = mv²/r

F = (1800)(16²)/42

F = 10971.4 N

I think that is horribly wrong in my opinion... and also I have no idea how to start question b. No pictures or anything either
 
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okay I did a little more work but I don't know if the concepts are correct

a. Force normal (from the road) would be equal to weight minus centripetal force


F = mg - mv²/r
F = (1800)(9.8) - (1800)(16²)/42

F = 6668.6 N

b.weight = centripetal force

mg = mv²/r

v = sqrt(mgr/m)
v = sqrt(gr)
v = sqrt(9.8*42)
v = 20.3 m/s

someone want to confirm this work if I am going the right way?
 
I believe you have the correct answers. Only one thing I'd point out. There isn't an independent centripetal force... The sum of the forces acting on the object results in a net force that is centripetal. Hope I don't cause any confusion. Just wanted to point out that it is the normal force acting with gravity, that results in the centripetal force. I'd have written the first equation as:

[tex]mg-F_n = ma_y[/tex]

This is just the sum of the forces in the y direction, taking downward as positive. The only two forces acting in the y direction here are the normal force and the weight.

And then, since it is moving in a circle the acceleration is centripetal... so you know acceleration is v^2/r

[tex]mg-F_n=\frac{mv^2}{R}[/tex]

and then solve for F_n as you did.
 
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okay thanks for the reply
 

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