Spherical balloon with conductive coating

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The discussion revolves around a problem involving a spherical balloon with a conductive coating, specifically focusing on the application of a high voltage source and the resulting electric field and pressure calculations. The subject area includes concepts from electrostatics and Gauss's Law.

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  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning

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  • Participants explore how to calculate the total charge on the sphere using Gauss's Law and question the appropriate equations to use for voltage and outward pressure. There is discussion about the relationship between electric field, charge, and voltage.

Discussion Status

Some participants have made progress in understanding the first part of the problem regarding charge calculation. However, there remains uncertainty about the correct equations to apply for voltage and pressure, with various interpretations being explored. Guidance has been offered regarding the use of formulas related to electric fields and voltage.

Contextual Notes

Participants express confusion about the application of certain equations, particularly concerning the pressure calculation and the implications of charge distribution within the conductor. There is a mention of the maximum practical electric field before air breakdown, which may influence the calculations.

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Hi, I have no idea of how to do the following problem and what formulas I should use. Please help! Thank you.

A spherical balloon has a conductive coating and we propose to inflate the balloon to a diameter of 0.1 meters by connecting the surface to a high voltage source. Suppose that the maximum practical electric field at the surface is 2 x 10^6 volts/meter (in air, just before breakdown of air molecules). What is the largest voltage we can apply, and what is the outward pressure (N/meters^2)? How many atmospheres is this?
 
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meteorologist1 said:
Hi, I have no idea of how to do the following problem and what formulas I should use. Please help! Thank you.

A spherical balloon has a conductive coating and we propose to inflate the balloon to a diameter of 0.1 meters by connecting the surface to a high voltage source. Suppose that the maximum practical electric field at the surface is 2 x 10^6 volts/meter (in air, just before breakdown of air molecules). What is the largest voltage we can apply, and what is the outward pressure (N/meters^2)? How many atmospheres is this?

Find the total charge Q on the sphere in terms of the electric field - gauss' law works here.

Then find the voltage on the surface of the sphere in terms of Q... plug in Q from the first part, to get the voltage.
 
Ok I understand the first part -- I can find the charge from Gauss's Law. For the second part, I'm still not sure what equation I should use. Should I use the equation W=QV or some other work equation? What about the outward pressure?
 
Ok when I try it: using 1) E = kq/r^2 and 2) V = kq/r, I get V = Er = (2 x 10^6 volts/m)(0.1 m) = 2 x 10^-7 volts. This procedure looks too simple. Is it right?
 
meteorologist1 said:
Ok when I try it: using 1) E = kq/r^2 and 2) V = kq/r, I get V = Er = (2 x 10^6 volts/m)(0.1 m) = 2 x 10^-7 volts. This procedure looks too simple. Is it right?

Yes, those two formulas work because of the symmetry involved. But r=0.05m, so V=Er=2*10^6*0.05=100,000V.

I'm not sure about the pressure part... if Force on a small area dA is F=(sigma*dA)E (where sigma is charge density)... And then you can find pressure by F/dA.

But using F=(sigma*dA)E seems wrong to me as the charges are located inside the conductor where electric field is zero... Not sure here. Sorry!
 

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