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The problem involves solving the trigonometric equation 2sin²(x) + sin(x) - 1 = 0, with participants exploring various approaches to manipulate and solve it.

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  • Exploratory, Mathematical reasoning, Problem interpretation

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  • Participants discuss substituting sin(x) with a variable p, leading to the quadratic equation 2p² + p - 1 = 0. There are questions about the validity of transformations and the steps taken to solve the equation.

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The discussion is ongoing, with participants providing different methods and questioning each other's reasoning. Some guidance has been offered regarding solving the quadratic equation, but there is no consensus on the correct approach yet.

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There are indications of confusion regarding the manipulation of trigonometric identities and the equivalence of certain expressions. Participants are also grappling with the application of the quadratic formula.

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Hi,

the question is

2sin^2 + sinX -1 = 0

I think the next step is then

2(1-cos^2)+cos^2=0

Did I do something wrong because I cannot seem to continue the question?
 
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Just replace sin(x) by a variable p.
the equations then is 2p² + p - 1 = 0

Solve this equation for p and then set these solutions equal to sin(x)
At best you will have two goniometric equations to solve

marlon
 
tempeste said:
Hi,

the question is

2sin^2 + sinX -1 = 0

I think the next step is then

2(1-cos^2)+cos^2=0

Did I do something wrong because I cannot seem to continue the question?

Yes,i've colored in red what is wrong,namely
[tex]\sin x -1=\cos^{2} x[/tex]

That is wrong...As an indentity.It is valid as an equation in "x",which,i'm afraid,is not really equivalent to your initial one...

Daniel.
 
I still don't really understand...

I tried it marlon's way

2p^2+p-1=0
2p^2+p=1
2p+p=1 (squareroot)
3p=1
p=1/3

Is the right?
 
tempeste said:
I still don't really understand...

I tried it marlon's way

2p^2+p-1=0
2p^2+p=1
2p+p=1 (squareroot)
3p=1
p=1/3

Is the right?

Not at all.

Can you solve an equation like ax² + bx + c = 0 ?
Discriminant D = b² -4ac

first solution = [tex]\frac{-b + \sqrt{D}}{2a}[/tex]
second solution = [tex]\frac{-b - \sqrt{D}}{2a}[/tex]

Just apply this to your equation where x is now p

marlon
 
No, it isn't.

square root of 2p^2+ p is NOT 2p+ p!

Can you factor 2p^2+ p- 1?
 

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