Force problem for elastic stretch

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The discussion revolves around a problem involving the elastic stretching of a gold nanowire, utilizing the formula for force related to elastic deformation. Participants are exploring the implications of the elastic modulus and the differences between the behavior of nanowires and bulk materials.

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  • Exploratory, Assumption checking, Problem interpretation

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  • The original poster attempts to compute the force as a function of distance stretched but encounters difficulty in determining the cross-sectional area of the wire. Some participants suggest that additional information, such as the mass of the wire, is necessary to find the area using density relations.

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The discussion is ongoing, with participants questioning the adequacy of the provided information and exploring the need for additional data to proceed with calculations. There is a recognition of missing values related to the configuration of the molecule and the stretching distance.

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The force required to elastically stretch a wire is given by:

F= ( l - lo / lo ) EA

where A is the cross-sectional area of the wire, lo is the length of the unstretched wire and l the length of the wire after it is stretched. E is the elastic modulus, sometimes called Young's modulus. Using this equation, compute the force as a function of distance stretched for the gold nanowire as it is stretched from E-I to E-II. The elastic modulus for bulk pure gold is 7.448 x 10^10 Pa. Is the behavior of the nanowire qualitatively/quantitatively different from that of the bulk?

my work:

l value = 10 Angstroms (from my graph of E-II)
lo value = 8 Angstromgs (from my graph of E-I)

F = (10-8)/8 * (7.448x10^10 Pa) A

my problem is how would i find the value for the cross-sectional area of the wire (A)? is there a formula i can use to calculate the cross-secitonal area?
 
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hackerdiety03 said:
my problem is how would i find the value for the cross-sectional area of the wire (A)? is there a formula i can use to calculate the cross-secitonal area?
Does the problem give you the mass of the wire? If it did, you can compute the mass/length and find A from: [itex]\rho A = m/l[/itex]. Otherwise, you don't have sufficient information here to solve the problem.

AM
 
im not really given any values for EI-EII which is the configuration of the Au3-SCH3 molecule. instead, the length of the wire from the distance in which it was stretched. this is all in a graph dealing with nanwires.
 
hackerdiety03 said:
im not really given any values for EI-EII which is the configuration of the Au3-SCH3 molecule. instead, the length of the wire from the distance in which it was stretched. this is all in a graph dealing with nanwires.
Why not just give us, word for word, the actual problem and post a copy of the graph. There is something missing from the information provided.

AM
 

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