Solving Pressure Question: Volume, Mass of Air @ 70F & 200psi

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The discussion revolves around a problem related to the properties of air in a pressurized tank, specifically focusing on calculating the specific volume at a given temperature and pressure. The subject area includes concepts from thermodynamics and gas laws.

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  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning, Assumption checking

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  • Participants discuss the use of the ideal gas law and its various forms to find specific volume and mass. There are questions about unit conversions, particularly from psi to lbf/ft², and the appropriate application of the ideal gas equation.

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Some participants have provided guidance on using the ideal gas law and suggested specific forms of the equation. There is an acknowledgment of the need for unit conversions, and multiple interpretations of the problem are being explored.

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Participants note constraints related to unit conversions and the specific requirements of the problem, including the temperature and pressure conditions given.

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I know this question is easy, but for some reason I am unable to figure it out.

The first part of the problem wants to know what the volume is in a pressurized tank. I figured it and it equals 2.1 ft^3.

The second part asks for the specific volume at 70 F and 200 psi.
So far all I have is v(specific volume) = V/m. Or 1/d = v

The gas in the tank is air, so basically I need to find the mass of air @ 70 F and 200 psi. I have the volume, so that is not the problem.

The answer to the question is .98 ft^3/lbm

Should I be using ideal gas laws? If I do use the ideal, I'm assuming I need to convert units. I'm having a problem converting psi to lbf/ft^2...

I can't come up with this answer, so if anyone can give me a hand I would appreciate it.

Thanks,

Frustr8ed, as the name states. :confused:
 
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Frustra8ed said:
I know this question is easy, but for some reason I am unable to figure it out.

The first part of the problem wants to know what the volume is in a pressurized tank. I figured it and it equals 2.1 ft^3.

The second part asks for the specific volume at 70 F and 200 psi.
So far all I have is v(specific volume) = V/m. Or 1/d = v

The gas in the tank is air, so basically I need to find the mass of air @ 70 F and 200 psi. I have the volume, so that is not the problem.

The answer to the question is .98 ft^3/lbm

Should I be using ideal gas laws? If I do use the ideal, I'm assuming I need to convert units. I'm having a problem converting psi to lbf/ft^2...

I can't come up with this answer, so if anyone can give me a hand I would appreciate it.

Thanks,

Frustr8ed, as the name states. :confused:
It would help if you would state the whole question. Use the ideal gas equation of state, PV=nRT to find n (number of moles). The answer won't be in ft^3/lbm.

AM
 
You may want to consider using this form of the ideal gas law:

[tex]P \nu = RT[/tex]

where:

[tex]P = Pressure (Lb_{f}/ft^2)[/tex]
[tex]\nu = Specific Volume (ft^3/Lb_{m})[/tex]
[tex]R = Universal Gas Constant (for air: 53.35 Ft*Lb_{f}/°R*LB_{m})[/tex]
[tex]T = Temperature (°R)[/tex]
 
Thanks for the responses. I believe that last equation is the one I need to use, but I was having trouble converting units.

Thanks Again,

Frustra8ed
 

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