Answering Existential Questions: Societal Pressures & Authentic Living

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The discussion revolves around existentialist philosophy, specifically addressing how individuals navigate societal pressures while striving for authenticity. Participants explore the implications of limited knowledge on making authentic choices and the nature of existential living.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant questions how existentialists reconcile the pursuit of a first-hand life with societal pressures and laws.
  • Another participant suggests that understanding historical figures in existentialism could provide insights into their responses to societal constraints.
  • A participant argues that the authenticity of an existential life is contingent on individual definitions of existentialism, emphasizing personal determination of right and wrong.
  • One participant critiques the assumption of a limited number of solutions to problems, suggesting that such an essentialist view oversimplifies the complexity of life choices.
  • Another participant introduces the idea that authenticity requires introspective challenge, though this concept is met with confusion and requests for clarification.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express differing views on the nature of existential authenticity and the implications of societal pressures. The discussion remains unresolved, with multiple competing perspectives on how existentialism applies to individual experiences.

Contextual Notes

Some statements reflect assumptions about the nature of solutions to problems and the definitions of existentialism, which may not be universally accepted. The discussion also highlights the complexity of living authentically in a societal context.

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I just got out of class and I didn't get to ask a couple burning questions I had, maybe some of you can help me.

1. If existentialists were concerned about leading a first-hand life, how did they deal with societal pressures and laws.

2. Can we really live an authentic existential life. For example, if I have a problem, in the whole world of possibility say there are 4 solutions. However, in our narrow lives we can't know all possibilites so say I am only aware of 2. I pick one that I feel is best for me, however in reality of all solutions one of the two that I didn't know would have been best for me. So we can only live the best and most truthful life with the limited resources we have, but does that fufil the ideal existential life?
 
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Tom Mattson said:
Don't tell me that our site Admin is posting homework questions without showing us how he started them! :eek:

Haha these are questions I formed off the top of my head through the discussions we had in class. My class is awesome in that we don't get homework, it's all open discussion.
 
OK, I'll start.

Greg Bernhardt said:
1. If existentialists were concerned about leading a first-hand life, how did they deal with societal pressures and laws.

This sounds like a historical question. Seems to me that you can answer it by looking up biographies of famous existentialists and see how they dealt with such things.

2. Can we really live an authentic existential life.

That depends on how you define existentialism. I think that most (all?) existentialists do not hold to universals in ethical questions, and that it is the individual that determines what is right and wrong. So it seems to me that the existentialist ideal is to do the best you can with what you know. And "the best" is defined by the individual.
 
Greg Bernhardt said:
I just got out of class and I didn't get to ask a couple burning questions I had, maybe some of you can help me.

1. If existentialists were concerned about leading a first-hand life, how did they deal with societal pressures and laws.

2. Can we really live an authentic existential life. For example, if I have a problem, in the whole world of possibility say there are 4 solutions. However, in our narrow lives we can't know all possibilites so say I am only aware of 2. I pick one that I feel is best for me, however in reality of all solutions one of the two that I didn't know would have been best for me. So we can only live the best and most truthful life with the limited resources we have, but does that fufil the ideal existential life?

1. The answer is in Sartre's La Nausee and Huis Clos and in Camus' l'Etranger. The famous summary from Huis Clos: "Hell is other people".

2. The assumption that there are four and only four solutions is essentialist. You PRETEND to be able to analyze life in this way but you can't. There is only the moment as you find it, and to be authentic you must challenge it from within.
 
selfAdjoint said:
and to be authentic you must challenge it from within.

What the heck does that mean?
 

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