How far does the person travel in km?

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The discussion revolves around a problem involving a person's trip where they drive at a constant speed with a rest stop, leading to questions about average speed, total time, and distance traveled. The subject area includes concepts from kinematics and average speed calculations.

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  • Participants explore the relationship between average speed and distance, questioning how to derive time and distance from given speeds. There are discussions about using equations involving total distance and total time, as well as the impact of the rest stop on calculations.

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Several participants have offered insights into how to approach the problem, including setting up equations that relate average speed to distance and time. There is an ongoing exploration of different interpretations of the problem, with some participants attempting calculations and sharing their reasoning.

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Participants note the requirement to consider both the constant speed and average speed, as well as the impact of the 15-minute rest stop on the total time of the trip. There is also mention of potential round-off errors in calculations.

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A person takes a trip, driving with a constant speed 90.5 km/h except for a 15 min rest stop. If the person's average speed is 60.8 km/h, how much time is spent on the trip? Answer in units of h.

how far does the person travel? answer in units of km.
 
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any ideas?? what are your thoughts so far??

What is the definition of average speed?
 
average speed=total d/total t
 
so what are you saying you use constant speed and average speed to get time traveled?
 
You're given ave speed, so if you you can find the distance traveled, then you can find the total time of the trip... using the equation

[tex]S_{ave} = \frac{d}{t}[/tex]

Can you come up with an equation for the distance traveled that involves the total time?
 
but we are supposed to use the total time to find the distance traveled though, so the only thing we can use is the difference between the constant speed and average speed and find time that way
 
The question asks for both the time and distance traveled... once one is solved, the other easily follows.

You have an equation with two unknowns, t and d... but your also given some other info... can you use that info to write one of the unknowns in terms of the other?
 
i was thinking it was 60.8/90.5 gives you how long it takes him to go 60.8 km, then i got a decimal x 60 got minutes added 15, then went back to decimal and got .9218232044 which is around 55 min, but it wasnt right, what's wrong with this thinking?
 
we know that 60.8= d/t, and 90.5t=d (constant acceleration means 0 velocity as well unless change in direction
 
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i just tried 90.5(t+.25)=60.8 because time + 15 min X the constant should equal the average right?
 
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runner1738 said:
i just tried 90.5(t+.25)=60.8 because time + 15 min X the constant should equal the average right?
Any distance you cover is traveled at a speed of 90.5 km/h. So if t is the total time, then the part of that time spent moving is t - .25 hours. So if you multiply the speed your traveling by this time, you get the distance traveled, that is
d = 90.5(t - .25)

can you figure out the rest?
 
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yea i got it total time was .7165, and distance was 46.38125
 
  • #13
good! my answer for time was 0.762 h, but I didn't round until the end so the differences can be explained by round-off error.. the distance is the same
 

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