Understanding Perturbation Theory for the Harmonic Oscillator

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The discussion revolves around perturbation theory applied to the harmonic oscillator, specifically examining how a slight increase in the spring constant affects the energy levels. The original poster presents a problem from Griffith's book regarding the calculation of the first-order perturbation in energy due to a change in the spring constant.

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  • Exploratory, Assumption checking, Conceptual clarification

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  • Participants discuss the definition of the perturbation Hamiltonian H' and its implications for the energy levels. There are questions about how to approach the problem without evaluating integrals, and whether the perturbation remains consistent despite changes in the spring constant.

Discussion Status

Participants are actively exploring the nature of the perturbation and its effects on the Hamiltonian. Some have suggested that the perturbation should be linear in epsilon, while others are questioning how the change in k influences H'. There is no explicit consensus, but the dialogue is focused on clarifying these concepts.

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There is a hint provided in the original problem that suggests avoiding integral calculations, which has led to some confusion among participants. The discussion also highlights the importance of understanding the relationship between the perturbation and the original Hamiltonian.

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For the harmonic oscillator [tex]V(x) = \frac{1}{2}kx^2[/tex], the allowed energies are [tex]E_n=(n+1/2)h \omega[/tex] where [tex]\omega = \sqrt{k/m}[/tex] is the classical frequency. Now suppose the spring constant increases slightly: k -> [tex](1 + \epsilon)k[/tex]. Calculate the first order perturbation in the energy.

This is 6.2 from Griffith' s book and after this question he gives the following hint although according to me, the hint is more confusing than the question without the hint:

Hint
What is H' here? It is not necessary- in fact it is not permitted - to calculate a single integral in doing this problem.

I understand what the formula looks like..it is
[tex]E_n^1 = <\psi_n^0 |H'| \psi_n^0>[/tex]

but how can this be done without evaluating a single integral? Also what is H' ?

James
 
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H' must the perturbation.Namely the small term added to the original hamiltonian and which shifts the energy levels and also the initial quantum states.U need to find that perturbation.

Daniel.

P.S.I think it should be linear term in "epsion"... :rolleyes:
 
The new potential is: [itex]V'(x)=\frac{1}{2}(1+\epsilon)kx^2=\frac{1}{2}kx^2+\frac{1}{2}\epsilon kx^2[/itex]

Therefore the new hamiltonian is:

[tex]H=H_0+\frac{1}{2}\epsilon kx^2[/tex]
where [itex]H_0[/itex] is the old hamiltonian.

EDIT: Whoops. Forgot the k.
 
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[tex]\frac{1}{2}\epsilon k x^{2} [/itex]<br /> <br /> if u drop the k (you have no reason to do that),it won't be that obvious that the perturbation is proportional (and much smaller due to the magnitude of the proportionality constant) to the unperturbed one.<br /> <br /> Daniel.[/tex]
 
Now just one second...is H' going to affected? It was [tex]\sigma \hbar \omega x\hat[/tex]

I don' t see how this is going to be affected by k changing...[tex]\omega[/tex] contains the [tex]\epsilon[/tex] but [tex]\omega[/tex] itself does not change right? According to me H' must be same :confused:

James
 
Hold on,that's the problem...Find H'...And then see whether it is any different (than what ?? :confused: )

Daniel.
 
[tex]E_n^1 = <\phi_n^0 |\sigma \hbar\omega \hat x| \phi_n^0>[/tex] so according to me just the [tex]\omega[/tex] bit will be affected. I don' t see what else in the expression for [tex]E_n^1[/tex] could be affected. i.e. the results of the integrals won' t be affected

James
 
From the expression u posted,should i understand that
[tex]\hat{H}'=\sigma\hbar\omega\hat{x}[/tex]

?If so,then who's every symbol of the RHS??

Daniel.
 

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