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The discussion revolves around the behavior of a test charge placed near a large flat uniformly charged non-conducting surface, specifically focusing on the force experienced by the test charge at different distances from the surface.

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  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Assumption checking

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  • Participants discuss using Coulomb's law and Gauss's law to analyze the electric field and force on the test charge. There are questions about the constancy of the electric field produced by an infinite plane of charge and its implications for the force on the test charge at varying distances.

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Some participants have offered guidance on using Gauss's law to derive the electric field and its implications for the force on the test charge. There is acknowledgment of the need for further clarification regarding the concept of a constant electric field in this context.

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Participants are working with specific values for the test charge and distances involved, and there is a mention of the assumption of an infinite plane charge affecting the electric field's behavior.

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Hi again guys. I've got a test charge place a certain distance away from a large flat uniformly charged non-conducting surface. I'm told what the force charge is from this distance. Then the test charge is moved, and I'm supposed to say what the force on the test charge is now. I tried doing it the way I'd handle two charges,:

E = (K*q1*q2)/r^2

solving for q2 and then changing the distance, but that didn't work. So I'm a bit lost. A lil' help please?

Edit: I'm told what the charge of the test charge is. Just in case.
 
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Use gauss's law with a box straddling the surface to get it's field in terms of sigma (surface charge density), use this to get the field at the first location, and solve for sigma to get the field at the final location.
 
I don't think I'm understanding the concept completely. I'll write out the problem just in case there was a misunderstanding. (I should just do this from the start, huh?)

A test charge of 3.1microC is placed 8.3cm away from a large flat uniformly charged nonconducting surface. The force on the charge is 380N. The charge is now moved to 2.7cm away from the surface. What is the force on the test charge now?
 
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The field of an infinite plane of charge is constant, so the answer is that the force is the same. To prove this, you can either integrate over the surface to get the field, or use gauss' law (if you know it) to make it a lot simpler. Maybe someone else can explain a way to prove the field of an infinite plane of charge is constant by some other method, but I can't think of one.
 
Whoa, sweet, that was the answer.Thanks so much!

I don't really understand why it's constant, though, so if someone could explain it to me, I'd appreciate it.
 
lobstrain said:
Whoa, sweet, that was the answer.Thanks so much!

I don't really understand why it's constant, though, so if someone could explain it to me, I'd appreciate it.

If you do the gauss's law on this, you'll find that the electric field is independent of the distance. This is because you are assuming that the plane charge is infinite (unbounded). Thus, the electric field lines (flux) is a constant and uniform - it doesn't "bow" outwards or inwards.

Zz.
 
Ahh, I get it now. Thanks you guys, you rock.
 

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