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ProBasket
Feb7-05, 11:18 PM
Consider the definite integral \int \frac{(x^3)}{(sqrt(3x^2-1))}
can someone help me find the appropriate subsitution?
i know that i will need this subsitution:
sqrt(x^2-a^2) is equal to
x=a*sec(theta)
well... i have to make 3x^2 look like x^2 somehow.
i tried using u-du sub, but i cant really find the right subsitution.
can someone give me a hand?
dextercioby
Feb7-05, 11:22 PM
The hard way:Do you handle calculus with hyperbolic functions...?
The easy way:Try part integration.
Daniel.
MathStudent
Feb7-05, 11:49 PM
There is also a very messy way by using
x= \frac{1}{\sqrt{3}} \sec \theta
but it will get the job done.
ProBasket
Feb8-05, 12:10 AM
There is also a very messy way by using
x= \frac{1}{\sqrt{3}} \sec \theta
but it will get the job done.
perfect! thank you
btw, how did you get x= \frac{1}{\sqrt{3}} \sec \theta ? i have my thoughts on how you got it, but i would like to make sure.
MathStudent
Feb8-05, 12:16 AM
pretty standard, when you have
\sqrt{bx^2 - a^2}
factor out the b to give you the recognizable x^2 - c^2 form so that you have
\sqrt{b(x^2 - \frac{a^2}{b})}
and then make the substitution
x = \frac{a}{\sqrt{b}}\sec \theta
dextercioby
Feb8-05, 12:19 AM
Pretty standard with cosine hyperbolic too... :tongue:
Daniel.
MathStudent
Feb8-05, 12:31 AM
Pretty standard with cosine hyperbolic too... :tongue:
Daniel.
It seems like most people, when given the chance avoid the hyperbolics like the plague, I don't even think they're taught at some shools. :smile:
dextercioby
Feb8-05, 12:36 AM
I'd never use secant & cosecant in any of my formulas...Any neither their hyperbolic or elliptical counterparts...Actually,i've always screwed them up.
secant-------->sinus
cosecant-------cosinus
would have been much more helpful for my slow brain. :rolleyes:
Daniel.
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