Bernoulli's Equation: Explained for Non-Experts

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The discussion revolves around Bernoulli's Equation, focusing on its application and understanding in fluid dynamics. Participants express confusion regarding the various forms of the equation and how to apply it to specific problems, particularly in the context of fluid flow through a straw and other systems.

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  • Participants discuss the components of Bernoulli's Equation, including static, dynamic, and positional pressures. Questions arise about setting reference points for height, the role of dynamic pressure in different locations, and the implications of fluid flow in a straw.

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Some participants have provided explanations regarding the terms in Bernoulli's Equation and how they relate to fluid flow. There is an ongoing exploration of specific problems, with some guidance offered on interpreting the equation's components. However, confusion remains about certain assumptions and the application of the equation in different scenarios.

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Participants mention specific problems from external sources, indicating a desire for clarification on how to approach these examples. There are discussions about the choice of reference points for height and the implications of fluid dynamics in varying conditions.

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Ok this stuff is confusing. Can someone give me a dumbified overview of this? I don't get when/how to use the equation. There are so many different forms and variations of pressure, bernoulli's equations it gets really confusing. I don't know what to equate what to what... ugh i don't know how to explain. I looked it up in wolfram and wikipedia and I read through the section numerous times and i still do not get it... :mad:

http://k.ebzlo.com/prob.htm is an example of some problem i don't know how to solve. It shows I got #1 right but i don't know how to get it, i just copied it from the textbook.

help is greatly appreciated.
 
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If you consider a current flow starting from the liquid surface through the straw, you must have that the sum of the static, dynamic and positional pressures must be the same along the flow. At the liquid surface, in the glass, you have
[tex]p_0+\rho g h_0[/tex]
considering the lower end of the straw as zero gravitational energy level. The dynamic pressure can be neglected here because the initial velocity [tex]v_{surface}=0[/tex].

At the lower straw end you have the total pressure
[tex]p_0+\frac{1}{2}\rho v^2[/tex].

These two terms must be equal (Bernoulli's law) and v=...
 
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Bernoulli says that there are 3 terms that can add up to give you the total pressure (energy) of the fluid at a given point. That sum should be the same no matter where in your system you are looking. Those 3 items are:

1) [tex]P_{o}[/tex] The fluid's static pressure (pressure created by molecules just bumping into each other)

2) [tex]\frac{1}{2}\rho v^2[/tex] The fluid's dynamic pressure (pressure created by the fluid moving)

3) [tex]\gamma z[/tex]The potential or positional pressure (similar to potential energy, it's pressure due to height above a selected level)

You can use this to calculate pressures, velocities, etc... at other points in a a system if you know that data in another part.

Does that help?
 
how do you know where to set height=0?
why is the dynamic pressure in the cup 0? there's fluid going into the straw isn't there?
why doesn't the lower end of the straw have any positional pressure in it? isn't it falling down so there should be force pulling the fluid down the straw? even both sides?

thanks for the explanation thogh.
 
1. you can set the zero gravitational energy level where you want (because in uniform gravitational field you deal with [tex]\Delta E_p[/tex] and not with the absolute value of [tex]E_p[/tex])
2. Because of [tex]S_{glass}\cdot v_1=S_{straw}\cdot v_2[/tex] when [tex]S_{glass}\gg S_{straw}[/tex] you have [tex]v_1\ll v_2[/tex].
 
ohhh i see.. thanks. that made sense.

can you help me with this one? I got the answer to this question already but I don't really get it.
http://k.ebzlo.com/prob2.htm

Can I get an explanation of the summary below part A's answer? the part about how fluid in part A is not pushed up by kenetic energy.. etc. Why doesn't the pressure involve the dynamic pressure of the flow beneath both tubes?
 
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Now you must be able to solve this problem yourself...the sum of the three pressures must be the same in all the points of each streamline of the flow. If you chose the horizontal central streamline, you have the same positional pressure but different dynamic ([tex]\frac{1}{2}\rho v_1^2[/tex] and [tex]\frac{1}{2}\rho v_2^2[/tex]) and static pressures ([tex]p_0+\rho g h_1[/tex] and [tex]p_0+\rho g h_2[/tex]).

ALL YOU NEED TO SOLVE THIS PROBLEM IS IN THIS THREAD!
 
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