Electroscope Forces: Calculating Total Charge Applied

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The problem involves calculating the total charge applied to a large electroscope, which consists of wires with small spheres at their ends. The setup includes considerations of forces acting on the charged spheres, particularly in relation to their angles with the vertical.

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  • Participants discuss whether to treat the spheres as point particles and the relevance of their mass. There is mention of setting up a force diagram to analyze tension and gravitational forces. Some participants explore the relationship between gravitational and Coulomb forces, while others question the calculations and assumptions made regarding the forces involved.

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There are various attempts to calculate the charge, with some participants providing guidance on equating forces and discussing the implications of the results. Multiple interpretations of the problem are being explored, particularly regarding the calculations and the final charge value.

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Participants are working under the assumption that the mass of the wires can be ignored, and there is a focus on the forces acting on the spheres in the electroscope setup. The discussion reflects uncertainty about the calculations and the expected range of the charge value.

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2. A large electroscope is made with "leaves" that are 78-cm-long wires with tiny 24-g spheres at the ends. When charged, nearly all the charge resides on the spheres. If the wires each make a 30 degree angle with the vertical, what total charge Q must have been applied to the electroscope? Ignore the mass of the wires.

OK, firstly, do I consider the spheres as really small point particles and ignore their mass? I want to, but I bet that's wrong. Second, do I have to set up some kind of force diagram, with tension and such? I think that is where I am stuck. Actually, I just find this problem to be extremely obnoxious. My sense is that the net force is equal to zero ... I have to admit, I have been kind of staring idly at this problem so if you have at least a hint, I would appreciate it. I understand generally how electroscopes work, but not with forces, etc. thrown in.
 
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Consider just one sphere. If there is no coloumb force, what is the force which brings it to it's original vertical position? The tangential component of the gravitational force. Equate this force to the tangential component of the coloumb force.

[tex]F_c \cos(30) = mgcos (60)[/tex] where

[tex]F_c = \frac{KQ^2}{r^2}[/tex]
 
OK, yeah, I think I did basically what you said.

I found mg cos (60) = .024 x 9.8 x cos (60) and then multiplied that by cos (30) to get F = .136 N.

Then, I multiplied that by r^2 and divided by k, took the square root and got Q = 3.03 x 10^-6. Does that make sense? I guess it could be that small, but really I have no idea.
 
and then multiplied that by cos (30)


devide by cos (30).


Also, Your problem asks you to find the charge applied to the electroscope. So the answer would be 2Q and yes the charge is going to be in micro coloumb range.
 
K, yes, that makes sense. Thanks for your help.
 

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