Detecting Black Hole Radiation: How Does It Work?

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The discussion revolves around the mechanisms of black hole radiation, particularly focusing on how this radiation can escape the gravitational influence of a black hole. Participants explore concepts related to the event horizon, virtual particles, and the implications of thermodynamics in the context of black holes.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant questions how radiation can escape a black hole given that the escape velocity exceeds the speed of light, seeking clarification on whether this occurs before an object crosses the event horizon.
  • Another participant suggests that black hole radiation is related to thermodynamics and involves virtual particles, with one particle falling into the black hole and its antiparticle escaping, leading to a net dissipation of radiation.
  • A later reply clarifies that Hawking radiation is generated just outside the event horizon, indicating that the process involves the creation of particle-antiparticle pairs influenced by the black hole's gravitational energy.
  • One participant seeks confirmation that radiation does not occur once objects have crossed the event horizon, implying a need for clarity on the timing of these processes.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express uncertainty regarding the specifics of when and how black hole radiation occurs, particularly in relation to the event horizon. Multiple competing views and interpretations remain present in the discussion.

Contextual Notes

There are limitations in the discussion regarding the assumptions made about virtual particles and the conditions under which black hole radiation is produced. The relationship between thermodynamics and black hole radiation is also not fully resolved.

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OK guys I know that one of the ways that black hole radiation is detected is by detecting some sort of radiation.

My question is... is this radiation or whatever released at a point were light cannot escape from the black hole? I mean the escape velocity from black holes is immensly greater than even the speed of light so how exactly does the radiation or whatnot escape the gravitational field? Or does it happen before an object crosses the event horizon? I am curious exactly how this works. Thanks :smile:
 
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If I am not wrong, what I have learned is that it has something to do with thermodynamics of the black hole system. There is existence of virtual particles in empty space, and one type is beyond the event horizon and its anti-particles is outside the event horizon. In effect, you will see a net dissipation of particle radiation from the black hole, which in effect is its black hole radiation.
 
BigStelly said:
OK guys I know that one of the ways that black hole radiation is detected is by detecting some sort of radiation.

My question is... is this radiation or whatever released at a point were light cannot escape from the black hole? I mean the escape velocity from black holes is immensly greater than even the speed of light so how exactly does the radiation or whatnot escape the gravitational field? Or does it happen before an object crosses the event horizon? I am curious exactly how this works. Thanks :smile:

Hawking radiation, as it is called is generated outside (just outside) the event horizon, which is the limit within which nothing can escape the black hole. A particle and its antiparticle are "promoted" from the quantum vacuum by the gravitational energy of the black hole. One of them falls into it, and the other escapes. Because creation of the pair took some of the black holes's energy, and only half of it came back through the infalling particle, the black hole's gravity, and hence its mass, is diminished.
 
So I would be correct in assuming that none of this radiation and whatnot occurs once objects have crossed the event horizon?
 

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