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The discussion revolves around deriving the identity Sin(2x) = 2 sin x cos x, with participants exploring various approaches to prove this trigonometric identity. The context includes the use of triangle area calculations and trigonometric identities.

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  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning, Problem interpretation

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  • Participants discuss the addition formula for sine and its application to the problem. There are attempts to relate the identity to the area of a triangle, with some questioning how to derive the height and area using trigonometric functions. Others suggest using specific triangle properties and relationships.

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The conversation is ongoing, with various methods being proposed and explored. Some participants have provided guidance on using the addition formula and relating triangle areas to the identity, while others are still clarifying their understanding and seeking further assistance.

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There are references to specific triangle configurations and the need to derive the identity in two different ways, which adds complexity to the problem. Some participants express difficulty in accessing external resources related to the problem.

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Hey guys, I'm having trouble deriving a proof for Sin(2x)= 2 sin x cos x

Help me if you can please.. Also, here is the link for this problem.

http://success.shoreline.edu/SarahLeyden/Classes/Current/Math%20120/Synthesizers/Synthesizer%203.pdf

It is Number 1.

Thanks
 
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Ugh, I hate not answering these maths questions in the help forum because they are jumped on by like 20 mathematicians because not enough maths questions are posted up. But I'll be the one to ask:

What have you done so far?
 
Do you know the addition formula...?

Daniel.
 
yes I do, that sin a + b = sin a cos b + cos a sin b..

I know that one, don't know where to begin.
 
HELPP! please...

jkotha
 
Then set b=a and see what happens.

Daniel.
 
ok thanks, that makes sense. But how does this relate to the area of the triangle?

http://success.shoreline.edu/SarahL...hesizer%203.pdf

jkotha
 
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I couldn't open the wabpage.Could you type in the problem exactly,to see what it asks for...?

Daniel.
 
ok try this..

http://success.shoreline.edu/SarahLeyden/Classes/Current/Math%20120/Synthesizers/Synthesizer%203.pdf
 
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I have to use the triangle given, And I need to do it in 2 different ways.
 
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Please Helpp!
 
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Please stop posting so much and show the working you have attempted to do to work out the area of the triangle.

dextercioby you should be able to right click and save as, once on your desktop open it with Acrobat Reader.
 
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What's the area of a triangle as a function of two consecutive sides and the angle between them?

Daniel.
 
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Area of a triangle

I know that the area of a triangle is 1/2 base * height. This would give the area of one of the triangles. We double this to find the area of the whole triangle.

In reply to your post would it be 1/2(height) * C * sin (x)
is that correct?
 
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also in the picture there is a 2nd triangle, would this right angle triangle have the same size as the two placed next to each other because of some math rule? (i have no idea which one it may be)

that would make c equal to 2a

thanks for the help

j
 
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Yes,it would be correct.Now use the fact that the total area of the big triangle can be written as twice the area of the smaller (rectangle) one.
It should come out easily.

Daniel.
 
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k I understand the area of the triangle part just fine, but what confuses me is proving it to the identity with the sines and cosines.

the height is not given explicitly in the picture, its blank.. so i used pythagorean theorem to find the height and it is (sq root of) \/ c^2 - a^2 or if i used c = 2a then it would be \/ 3a^2

But I am not sure if this leads me anywhere sooo ill approach at another angle.

Since it asks us to find 2 ways, then the 2nd way i think i just found is to turn the triangle on its side (that part doesn't really matter but easier to place in a circle) and then say that cosine is the bottom plane (formerly height) and sine is a, so that would mean 1/2cos(x)*sin(x) is the area of the triangle.
And if i look the identity sin(2x)=2sin(x)cos(x) and what i got for the triangle area 1/2cos(x)sin(x), then doubling the latter would give me 2sin(x)cos(x) i think and that would make it equal to sin(2x), therefore giving me the area of the triangles.

is this 2nd part i just wrote right? (if u can even understand it lol) then that would be half way done.

thanks
 
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The area of the big triangle is definitely:
[tex]S=\frac{c^{2}}{2}\sin 2x[/tex]

As i said,it is double the are of the rightangle triangle,which is (denoting the height of the big triangle by h) denoted by "s" and is
[tex]s=\frac{c}{2} h \sin x[/tex]

And now the "h" is (from the same triangle):
[tex]h=c \cos x[/tex]

And so,the "s" becomes
[tex]s=\frac{c^{2}}{2}\sin x \ \cos x[/tex]

Now double "s" and set it equal to S.

Daniel.
 

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