Solving for Potential in an Incompressible Self-Gravitating Fluid Slab

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The discussion revolves around finding the gravitational potential in an infinite slab of incompressible self-gravitating fluid with a specified density, within the region defined by |z|

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  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning, Assumption checking

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  • Participants discuss starting points, including the use of differential equations to account for dynamics and the application of Gauss's law for gravitational fields. Questions arise regarding the definitions of potential and density, as well as the need to consider additional factors like pressure and boundary conditions.

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The discussion is active, with participants offering various approaches and questioning assumptions. Some guidance has been provided regarding the use of Gauss's law, but there is no explicit consensus on the best method to proceed, as different interpretations of the problem's requirements are being explored.

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There are indications of potential complexities in the problem, such as the need to apply both the Poisson equation and Euler's equations, which may complicate the analysis. Participants also note the absence of certain factors in the proposed solutions, suggesting further clarification may be needed.

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If I have an infinite slab of incompressible self-gravitating fluid of density rho within the region |z|<a, and I am asked to find the potential both inside and outside the slab, where should I start?
 
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With writing the (differential) equations which account for the dynamics...??

Daniel.
 
Do you mean by "potential" the gravitational potential and by "rho" the mass density?
 
A very fast solution to this problem can be obtained using a Gauss-like law for the gravitational field (it can be demostrated by direct integration of the Poisson equation and using the divergence theorem). The "gravitational flux" through a closed surface must equal the total mass inside the surface times gravitational constant.
[tex]\oint_S \vec{\Gamma}\cdot d\vec{S}=-\gamma \int \rho dv[/tex]
Then, if you know [tex]\Gamma(z)[/tex], the potential is just
[tex]V=-\int \Gamma dz[/tex]
(for the integration constant you can impose V(0)=0)
You can choose a cylindrical gaussian surface with its axis parallel to Oz and play with this theorem. For this cylinder, the total flux is [tex]2\Gamma S[/tex] (S is basis area)

I think [tex]\Gamma[/tex] will vary linearly from z=0 to z=a and would be uniform for z>a. So the potential will be quadratic and linear respectively...but you must verify that...
 
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Your analysis would be okay,if the "infinite slab of incompressible self-gravitating fluid of density rho" would not mean what i think it does:namely a fluid to which u have to apply not only the Poisson equation (for a gravitostatic field),but also Euler's equations and the continuity of mass (for an incompressible fluid).You'd have then 5 equations with 5 unknowns:the gravity potential,the velocity field and the density field...
It would be really nasty,indeed.

Daniel.
 
Thanks Clive. But wouldn't using Gauss Law introduce a factor of 4*Pi? The answers have no 4*Pi in it. And do I have to consider also the pressure and the boundary condition?

By the way, here's the answers provided:
Code:
V = (1/2)G rho (z)^2             |z|<a
             = G rho a (|z| - (1/2)a)     |z|>a
 

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