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the_d
Feb13-05, 02:00 PM
what would the resultant vector be for two vectors both 66m in magnitude that look like this: /__ be?

vsage
Feb13-05, 02:07 PM
Is that the question? Just use the tip-to-tail method: Attach the tail of one vector to the tip of the other. I'm working on the assumption you're doing a qualitative and not quantitative answer because we would need to know the angle measurement then.

the_d
Feb13-05, 02:11 PM
Is that the question? Just use the tip-to-tail method: Attach the tail of one vector to the tip of the other. I'm working on the assumption you're doing a qualitative and not quantitative answer because we would need to know the angle measurement then.


actually its four vectors each 66m that form a parallerlogram and the angle is 62 degrees. it looks sumtin like this:

___
/__/

xanthym
Feb13-05, 02:12 PM
what would the resultant vector be for two vectors both 66m in magnitude that look like this: /__ be?

IF {Angle Between Vectors}=(62 deg) THEN:
{Magnitude of Resultant Vector} = 68 m


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the_d
Feb13-05, 02:19 PM
IF {Angle Between Vectors}=(62 deg) THEN:
{Magnitude of Resultant Vector} = 68 m


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so to find the sum of all four would I just multiply 68 times 4?

xanthym
Feb13-05, 02:27 PM
so to find the sum of all four would I just multiply 68 times 4?


{Sum All 4 Vectors} = (2)(66)Cos(31 deg) = 113 m

the_d
Feb13-05, 02:31 PM
{Sum All 4 Vectors} = (2)(66)Cos(31 deg) = 113 m


thats not correct

xanthym
Feb13-05, 02:34 PM
In which direction is each vector pointing?


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the_d
Feb13-05, 02:36 PM
In which directions are each vector pointing?

the diagram looks like this:

____
/___/ with the vertical vectors pointing up and the horizontal ones pointing to the right

xanthym
Feb13-05, 02:44 PM
the diagram looks like this:

____
/___/ with the vertical vectors pointing up and the horizontal ones pointing to the right

Magnitude{Sum All 4 Vectors} = (4)(66)Cos(31 deg) = 226 m


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the_d
Feb13-05, 02:47 PM
{Sum All 4 Vectors} = (4)(66)Cos(31 deg) = 226 m


thats wrong too. do you even know what ur doing?

vsage
Feb13-05, 02:54 PM
/bites tongue about the above

The direction of each vector in vector component form is:
Let x = angle between the +x axis and the vector

Magnitude*cos(x)i + Magnitude*sin(x)j

If you sum each i component together and each j component together, you'll get the resultant vector. For the horizantal vectors, x = 0 and for the partially vertical ones x = 62. It's your job to do the arithmetic though.

er I should note i and j are unit vectors in the +x and +y directions, respectively.

ktpr2
Feb13-05, 02:59 PM
The parrelleogram rule is nice because once you move two vectors in head tail configuration, you can use the cos law to get the resultant of the two vectors.

So you got an angle of 62 degrees, so the angle between the head and tail version of the vector is 28 degrees. Then, using the cosine law, we get
66^2+66^2-2(66)(66)(cos 118) = R^2

... well, for the rest, consult your trig book.

edit- whoops, subtracted from 90, not 180

xanthym
Feb13-05, 05:38 PM
the diagram looks like this:

____
/___/ with the vertical vectors pointing up and the horizontal ones pointing to the right

Referencing the drawing below, the problem statement specifies 4 vectors given here which we are to sum:
#1) A={P ---> Q}
#2) B={Q ---> R}
#3) C={P ---> S}
#4) D={S ---> R}

Q B
+---------------> R
/ /
A / /
/ / D |A|=|B|=|C|=|D| = 66 meters
/ /
/ 62 deg /
P +----------------> S
C

Vector addition is geometrically performed by placing Heads to Tails of the vectors being added. Order does not matter. Thus:
A + B = {P ---> Q} + {Q ---> R} = {P ---> R} = {Diagonal PR of PQRS}
C + D = {P ---> S} + {S ---> R} = {P ---> R} = {Diagonal PR of PQRS}

Thus:
A + B + C + D = 2{P ---> R} = 2{Diagonal PR of PQRS}

The length of Diagonal PR of the above Parallelogram is given by application of the Law of Cosines and using the fact that {Angle_P + Angle_Q = 180 deg}:
{Length of PR} = sqrt{|A|^2 + |B|^2 - 2*|A|*|B|*cos(180 - 62)}
= sqrt{(66)^2 + (66)^2 - 2*(66)*(66)*cos(118 deg)}
= (113 meters)

Using results from above, we multiply by 2 and get:
Magnitude{A + B + C + D} = 2{113} = 226 meters


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the_d
Feb13-05, 05:39 PM
Referencing the drawing below, the problem statement specifies 4 vectors given here which we are to sum:
#1) A={P ---> Q}
#2) B={Q ---> R}
#3) C={P ---> S}
#4) D={S ---> R}

Q B
+---------------> R
/ /
A / /
/ / D |A|=|B|=|C|=|D| = 66 meters
/ /
/ 62 deg /
P +----------------> S
C

Vector addition is geometrically performed by placing Heads to Tails of the vectors being added. Order does not matter. Thus:
A + B = {P ---> Q} + {Q ---> R} = {P ---> R} = {Diagonal PR of PQRS}
C + D = {P ---> S} + {S ---> R} = {P ---> R} = {Diagonal PR of PQRS}

Thus:
A + B + C + D = 2{P ---> R} = 2{Diagonal PR of PQRS}

The length of Diagonal PR of the above Parallelogram is given by application of the Law of Cosines and using the fact that {Angle_P + Angle_Q = 180 deg}:
{Length of PR} = sqrt{|A|^2 + |B|^2 - 2*|A|*|B|*cos(180 - 62)}
= sqrt{(66)^2 + (66)^2 - 2*(66)*(66)*cos(118 deg)}
= (113 meters)

Using results from above, we multiply by 2 and get:
Magnitude{A + B + C + D} = 2{113} = 226 meters


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you are right, my mistake

the_d
Feb13-05, 05:42 PM
I have a question. Vector A has x and y components of -20cm and 15 cm, respectively; vector B has x and y components of 10.9cm and -20 cm, respectively. If A - B + 3C = 0, what is the x component of C?

I found out that C = -0.73 cm but thats not what the question is asking.

xanthym
Feb13-05, 05:53 PM
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