How Do You Calculate the Limit of (2n-1)/(3n+1) as n Approaches Infinity?

  • Thread starter Thread starter shan
  • Start date Start date
  • Tags Tags
    Limits
Click For Summary

Homework Help Overview

The discussion revolves around calculating the limit of the expression (2n-1)/(3n+1) as n approaches infinity. Participants are exploring the rules and methods for evaluating limits in calculus.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants discuss different methods for finding the limit, including using coefficients of the highest powers in the numerator and denominator, and dividing through by the highest power of n. Questions arise regarding the understanding of these methods and their application.

Discussion Status

Some participants express clarity after receiving explanations about the limit calculation methods. There is acknowledgment of different approaches, but no explicit consensus on a single method being superior.

Contextual Notes

Participants note that the problem may not strictly be a homework question, and there is mention of a helpful online resource for further exploration of limit concepts.

shan
Messages
56
Reaction score
0
This isn't really a homework question so feel free to move is somewhere else. My teacher tried to explain this to me but I didn't understand it so I thought I'd try hearing another person's point of view.

The question is
lim n->infinity (2n-1)/(3n+1)

The working out I was showed is
= lim n->infinity (2n+2/3)/(3n+1) - (1 2/3)/(3n+1)
= 2/3 - 0 = 2/3

What I don't understand is how to work out that the lim n->infinity (2n+2/3)/(3n+1) is 2/3. We were shown rules for limits as n tends to infinity but I don't think I've come across the above situation before.
 
Physics news on Phys.org
shan said:
This isn't really a homework question so feel free to move is somewhere else. My teacher tried to explain this to me but I didn't understand it so I thought I'd try hearing another person's point of view.

The question is
lim n->infinity (2n-1)/(3n+1)

The working out I was showed is
= lim n->infinity (2n+2/3)/(3n+1) - (1 2/3)/(3n+1)
= 2/3 - 0 = 2/3

What I don't understand is how to work out that the lim n->infinity (2n+2/3)/(3n+1) is 2/3. We were shown rules for limits as n tends to infinity but I don't think I've come across the above situation before.

Ok this is your function:

[tex]\lim_{\substack{n\rightarrow \infty}}f(n)=\frac{2n-1}{3n+1}[/tex]

Now, there's a shortcut. I don't know if you know it already but, if the powers are the same on the numerator and the denominator, just use the coefficients. Look at the 2n and the 3n. They have the same powers of 1 so use their coefficients 2 and 3. That will basically equal to 2/3. Hope that helps. Remember only when the powers are the same.

What you can also do is divide everything by the highest power in the denominator which is going to be n.

[tex]\lim_{\substack{n\rightarrow \infty}}f(n)=\frac {{\frac{2n}{n}}-{\frac{1}{n}}}{\frac{3n}{n}+{\frac{1}{n}}}[/tex]

Cancel and you're left with:

[tex]\lim_{\substack{n\rightarrow \infty}}f(n)=\frac{{2}-\frac{1}{n}}{{3}+\frac{1}{n}}[/tex]

Now plug zero into the n's and you're left with:

[tex]\lim_{\substack{n\rightarrow \infty}}f(n)=\frac{2}{3}[/tex]

The method you were taught seems complicated to me. :confused:
 
Last edited:
Cool, that makes it much clearer and simpler. Thanks very much :)
 
jzq said:
[tex]\lim_{\substack{n\rightarrow \infty}}f(n)=\frac{{2}-\frac{1}{n}}{{3}+\frac{1}{n}}[/tex]

Now plug zero into the n's and you're left with:

[tex]\lim_{\substack{n\rightarrow \infty}}f(n)=\frac{2}{3}[/tex]

I agree with jzq but with a small edition:
Since n approaches infinity in this question, I think jzq meant to say:

"Now plug zero in for (1/n)'s and you're left with:" ...

(that is because 1/infinity = 0).

A good online reference for "limit questions" can be viewed at:
http://www.jtaylor1142001.net/calcjat/Contents/CLimits.html
 
Man...limits are fun, aren't they?
 

Similar threads

Replies
5
Views
2K
  • · Replies 5 ·
Replies
5
Views
2K
  • · Replies 2 ·
Replies
2
Views
2K
  • · Replies 11 ·
Replies
11
Views
2K
Replies
8
Views
2K
  • · Replies 10 ·
Replies
10
Views
2K
  • · Replies 7 ·
Replies
7
Views
2K
  • · Replies 1 ·
Replies
1
Views
2K
  • · Replies 6 ·
Replies
6
Views
5K
Replies
17
Views
3K