Year 12 physics - thin films question

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The discussion revolves around a physics problem involving a soap film with a specified thickness and its interaction with light. Participants are exploring the conditions for constructive interference and the resulting color appearance based on the film's properties.

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  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Assumption checking

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  • Participants discuss the relationship between film thickness, wavelength, and refractive index, questioning whether the problem pertains to maximum or minimum reflection. There is also consideration of phase shifts upon reflection and how these affect interference.

Discussion Status

The conversation is ongoing, with participants providing insights into the conditions for constructive interference and the implications of phase shifts. Some guidance has been offered regarding the nature of the reflections, but no consensus has been reached on the specific wavelength or color that will be most strongly reflected.

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Participants are navigating the complexities of thin film interference, including the effects of refractive index and the specific conditions for phase shifts. There is an acknowledgment of the need for clarity on whether the scenario involves a half-wave or full-wave situation.

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I'm really stuck on this question:

A soap film is 100 nm thick. What wavelength of light will be most strongly reflected by this film; that is, what colour will it appear? (n soap = 1.33).

Any help you could provide would be greatly appreciated.
 
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um.. would this be asking which would refract the most?

If so i would say red..
 
I know you need to adjust for the wavelength change due to n, but I can't remember if it's a 1/2 wave or a full wave coating. One is minimum reflection and the other maximum. Either

100nm x 1.33 x 2 or 100nm x 1.33
 
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there is 1/2 wave inversion at the top surface, but no inversion at the bottom surface. The "most reflected" wavelength will experience constructive interference from both reflections. To do so, the second ray will travel a total distance through the film equal to 1/2 its wavelength in the film.

Can you take it from there?
 
just to refresh my memory, what determines the 1/2 wave inversion or not? Is it the sense of the the transition low index > high index vs. high > low, or something else?
 
low index > high index----reflect with 180 degree phase shift
high > low----reflect with no phase shift

the above two conditions + interference = answer of this problem
 

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