What is the minium force required to pull block C out from under block B?

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The problem involves three blocks with given masses and coefficients of static friction, where the objective is to determine the minimum force required to pull the bottom block (C) out from under the middle block (B), which is tied to a wall.

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  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Problem interpretation

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  • Participants discuss the role of static friction and the normal force acting on block C. There are attempts to calculate the static force required to move block C, with some confusion regarding the calculations. One participant emphasizes the importance of understanding the problem and suggests breaking it down into parts related to the friction between blocks and the ground.

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The discussion is ongoing, with participants exploring different aspects of the problem. Some guidance has been offered regarding the approach to take, emphasizing the need to visualize the problem and consider the forces acting on each block.

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There is mention of confusion regarding the calculations of static friction and the normal force, as well as the challenge of visualizing the problem without the ability to draw diagrams easily.

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Q: There is a mass of a mass A (2kg ) sitting on top of a mass of B ( 4kg), which is sitting on top of a mass of C(3 kg). The static friction between A and B is .5; and between B and C is .5 and between C and the ground is .8. Mass B is tied to the wall. What is the minium force required to pull block C out from under block B?

A: Well I am really confused about static friction, the Normal force acting on Mass C is 9kg*9.8N=88.2 N, and is u static is .8+.3=.13, so therefore the static force is
us.* Normal force = Static force =13*88.2 = 88.2N (is that force it would take to move Mass C?)
 
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sorry I meant that it was .13*88.2N = 11.46N of force, that does not seem right. When you figure the static force, is that the force that it takes to move the object?
 
please read what i had to say in another thread: https://www.physicsforums.com/showthread.php?s=&threadid=6603

Especially the part about drawing a picture.

Physics is not about plugging in values into formulas and hoping the get the right answer. You must first understand what the problem entails and attack it in an ordially fashion.

Make the problem simple and break is into two parts - the friction on the bottom of C and the friction on top of C.

For the bottom of C you have the weight of the whole system times the coefficient of static friction between C and the floor. On the top of C you have the weight of A and B. times the coefficient of static friction between B and C

Now its just a matter of sum of forces in the x direction.
 
thank you so much, I was lost. You are right about drawing the pictures, it is just hard to do that on the computer.

tucky
 

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