Physics: conservation of energy and springs

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The problem involves a scenario where two children are using a spring-loaded gun to launch a marble at a target box, with the goal of determining the necessary compression of the spring for a successful hit. The context includes concepts of conservation of energy and projectile motion.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning

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  • Participants discuss the use of conservation of energy and kinematic equations to relate the spring compression to the marble's horizontal distance traveled. There are questions about the appropriateness of the equations being used and the relationship between horizontal speed and spring compression.

Discussion Status

Some participants have provided insights into the relationship between the time of flight and horizontal distance, suggesting that the horizontal speed is proportional to the spring compression. Others are exploring different methods to approach the problem, indicating a variety of perspectives without a clear consensus on the best approach.

Contextual Notes

There is mention of the absence of friction affecting the spring and marble, and participants are navigating the complexities of 2D motion and energy conservation principles. Some uncertainty remains regarding the specific equations and methods to apply.

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Two children are playing a game in which they try to hit a small box on the floor with a marble fired from a spring-loaded gun that is mounted on a table. The target box is 2.20m horizontally from the edge of the table. Bobby compresses the spring 1.10cm, but the center of the marble falls 27.0cm short of the center of the box. How far should Rhonda compress the spring to score a direct hit? Assume that neither the spring nor the ball encounters friction in the gun.

i know i use conservation of energy and X=vt+(1/2)Axt^2 and Y=Voy(t)+(1/2)Ayt^2 and i think you solve for both... but after that i don't know what to do... am i using the right equations? the answer is 1.25cm
 
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Realize that the time it takes for the marble to fall depends only on the height so is a constant. Thus the horizontal distance the marble travels is proportional to its horizontal speed. Now relate the horizontal speed to the amount of spring compression using conservation of energy: [itex]1/2 k x^2 = 1/2 m v^2[/itex]. Use ratios.
 
i do not really understand... i was told i would most probably use conservation of energy and the 2d motion equations.. is that the same as what you explained?
 
Realize that there are usually several ways--all equivalent--to solve these kinds of problem. I don't know what you mean by "2d motion equations"; I assume you mean the kinematic equations you wrote? If so, realize that only the vertical motion is accelerated; the horizontal speed remains constant.

Bottom line: Yes, use conservation of energy and kinematics of projectiles.
 

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