Solving Problems Involving Simple Harmonic Oscillators

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The discussion revolves around problems related to simple harmonic oscillators, specifically focusing on potential energy and amplitude calculations in the context of oscillatory motion. Participants are exploring the relationships between velocity, amplitude, and spring constants in two distinct scenarios involving mass-spring systems.

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  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Problem interpretation

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  • Participants are attempting to derive amplitude from given velocity equations and spring constants, questioning the validity of the velocity equation provided. There is confusion regarding the correct relationships and formulas to use in simple harmonic motion.

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Some participants have offered guidance on revisiting the equations and concepts related to simple harmonic motion. There is an ongoing exploration of how to relate velocity to amplitude, with multiple interpretations of the velocity equation being discussed. The original poster expresses a lack of clarity and resources, indicating a need for further assistance.

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Participants are working under the constraints of homework rules, which may limit the information they can provide or receive. There is an acknowledgment of potential misunderstandings regarding the equations of motion in simple harmonic oscillators.

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I have two questions:

#1.) The velocity of a simple harmonic oscillator is given by
v=-7.22(26.0t) (mks units)

If the mass is 0.29kg, what is the spring's potential energy at the time t=40.33?

MY WORK:
First I found k by using ω^2=k/mass. This equaled 196.04.

I couldn't really figure out how I was supposed to derive aplitude (A) for that, So i figured since v=-Aω sin (ωt) that A =7.22/2.60.

Then i took my (probably not right) amplitude and put it into U=.5kA^2cos^2(ωt).

*This didn't work out, possibly because I can't figure out how to get the correct amplitude??

#2.) A 0.28 kg mass is attached to a vertical spring with a spring constant 9.1 N/m and let fall. What is the amplitude of the resulting motion?

MY WORK:
Since its a vertical spring, i used the equation: y0=mg/k. When I got the y0, i figured this to be twice my aplitude, so i divided it by 2.

*Wrong, again because I have issues with amplitude.

Please help me!
 
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dalitwil said:
I have two questions:

#1.) The velocity of a simple harmonic oscillator is given by
v=-7.22(26.0t) (mks units)

This is not the equation of velocity in SHM. It is of the form v = kt, i.e. it describes motion at constant velocity.

dalitwil said:
#2.) A 0.28 kg mass is attached to a vertical spring with a spring constant 9.1 N/m and let fall. What is the amplitude of the resulting motion?

MY WORK:
Since its a vertical spring, i used the equation: y0=mg/k. When I got the y0, i figured this to be twice my aplitude, so i divided it by 2.

*Wrong, again because I have issues with amplitude.

Please help me!

You are in the wrong track. It will be more feasible for you to use the law of conservation of Energy:

[tex]PE_{G1} + PE_{E1} = PE_{G2} + PE_{E2}[/tex]
 
I am still completely clueless as to how to get the Amplitude. If I could figure that out, the problem #1 would be much easier to work out. I figure you could use the time t given to get a numerical value for velocity, but how can I relate that to A with other knowns I have?

I am not able to make sense of an equation in that form, and what exactly it means. Also, my professor isn't very willing to help with the students, so I have essentially no other resources.

Any help at all would be immensly appreciated.
 
*sigh*
As I said you cannot determine the amplitude A, given only the equation of velocity which is wrong (v = kt)! Try to revisit the question, or ask your professor about the correct equation of v(t), and post it here again. Good luck!
 
If you know x(t) = Acos ωt (as you used it to get PE), why isn't your velocity, v(t) = -Aωsin ωt??
 

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