Do aliens experience consciousness like humans?

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Discussion Overview

The discussion explores the nature of consciousness, particularly in relation to extraterrestrial life and how it may differ from human consciousness. Participants examine the implications of evolutionary processes on consciousness and perception, including comparisons to human experiences and the experiences of individuals with disabilities, such as blindness.

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  • Conceptual clarification

Main Points Raised

  • Some participants propose that extraterrestrial life may not experience consciousness in the same way as humans due to differing evolutionary paths and sensory systems.
  • One participant argues that a blind person may experience consciousness differently, raising questions about the nature of perception and understanding.
  • Another participant wonders about the dreaming experiences of blind individuals, questioning whether they dream in color or visualize concepts they cannot see.
  • A participant presents a hypothetical scenario involving a unique life form on another planet, suggesting that consciousness could manifest in forms vastly different from human experience, depending on environmental conditions and evolutionary history.
  • There is a suggestion that the evolution of consciousness is tied to the ability to perceive and understand one's environment, with implications for how different species might interpret their realities.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express a range of views on the nature of consciousness and its relation to evolutionary biology, with no clear consensus on whether extraterrestrial consciousness would resemble human consciousness or how individuals with different sensory experiences perceive reality.

Contextual Notes

Participants' arguments rely on various assumptions about consciousness, perception, and evolutionary processes, which remain unresolved and open to interpretation.

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In defining consciousness as it relates to humans, is it reasonable to assume that extra terrestrial life having evolved to an equivalent or higher state will interact with the physical universe in the same way, put simply do you think aliens think/experience like us on a deeper level ?
 
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spicerack said:
In defining consciousness as it relates to humans, is it reasonable to assume that extra terrestrial life having evolved to an equivalent or higher state will interact with the physical universe in the same way, put simply do you think aliens think/experience like us on a deeper level ?

Absolutely not. There is no reason that an alien species would develop our simian visual system with its close brain linkage to our manual control. These two facilities form the greater part of our conscious experience. Whales would think quite differently.
 
so does a blind person given that the greater part of their conscious experience is disconnected think differently and thus experience consciousness in a more profound way ?
 
off on a tangent I was wondering just what do blind people dream of and do they dream in colour ?
 
one can only percieve what one can understand. if someone form the dawn of man, when we first started to dream, had a dream about our persent time he/she wouldn't know what he/she was dreaming of. maby a little recognition of our shapes, which would be near to the same as their own... somthing they could understand. but could they understan a computer screen? likely not. maby the images but they wouldn't have a clue wat they were seeing. I am not blind, and i have never even talked to a blind person... btu i would imagin thry would dream of wat they know of. maby their mind would try to paint them a picture of what they can't see everyday, btu chances are they wouldn't be very acurate.

i have thought about aliens, it has to be possible. if there is such diversity of life on Earth then there must be life throughout the universe. an ant may not paint pictures but they do collect food for the well being of the nest... if that is the right term.

hypothetical: at the opposite region of the universe, billions of lightyaesr closre to the galactic core than us, there is a planet covered in a strange jelly/mold. it doesn't reproduce because it doesn't die. it has no time becuse it only collects light and space dust. half of it is infected with a hybrid version of itself that consumes its perdesor to create its intricate crystiline structure that it uses to colect even more light that its happen chance parent. evolution is simply the reaction to stimuli (please excuse my bad spelling). we were blessed with eyes because natural selection. as we evolved from apes who lived in forests, we needed morte complex food sorces. possibly there was a mutant ape who had a horrid skin complexion then made all his hair fall out. well he was also the dominat male. although his offspring all had fur, this introduction of the hairless gene would recure a few tiems every decade or so.
soon apes were experianceing somthin new, a small memory patern that alloud them to recognize varrious fruits and other food sorses.the heathy apes with the capacity to learn, thrived. they bred with the other apes and thus more were born with a fraction of thought. the strong survive.

back to our crystal mold: eyes are just complex solar colectors. the new and improved species could determine where the best sorce of light was, although it had no eyes. it just so happened that the best light was on the uninhabited side of the planet. it was uninhabited because the solar radiation was to intence for the former mold slime, but the new crystaliszed mold had no need to shelter itself from the harsh rays, if fact it thrived. so much energy.
i don't think i have to go any further because either u people are thinkin I am dum or you alrady see my point of view
 

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