PDA

View Full Version : Simple function growth


ti89fr33k
Mar28-05, 02:44 AM
Show log n < O(n^epsilon) for n sufficiently large.

Not actually calculus, but it has something to do with limits, so there. :rofl:

Thanks,

Mary

shmoe
Mar28-05, 08:03 AM
Did you try looking at

\lim_{n\rightarrow\infty}\frac{\log n}{n^\epsilon}

If you can evaluate this limit, the bound you're after follows.

ti89fr33k
Mar28-05, 12:49 PM
I know the limit is 0...but how do you evaluate it?

ti89fr33k
Mar28-05, 12:52 PM
The answer is quite intuitive...but i want a rigorous method

shmoe
Mar28-05, 01:06 PM
l'hopital's rule will handle the limit.

Are you able to convert from the limit to the big-O bound? This will follow from the definition of the limit.

ti89fr33k
Mar28-05, 01:48 PM
yes, but my instructor specifically mentioned not to use l'hopitals rule

ti89fr33k
Mar28-05, 01:57 PM
there is a pure algebra method

shmoe
Mar28-05, 05:22 PM
If I write

\log n=\frac{2}{\epsilon}\log n^\frac{\epsilon}{2}

does that help you evaluate the limit?

ti89fr33k
Mar28-05, 08:47 PM
log n^epsilon/2 has to grow slower than n^epsilon?

ti89fr33k
Mar28-05, 08:49 PM
oh...i see...