What is the asymptotic behavior of S(n) with the Li(x) function?

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The discussion revolves around the asymptotic behavior of the sum \( S(n) = \sum_{k=2}^n \frac{1}{\log(k)} \) in relation to the logarithmic integral function \( Li(x) \). Participants explore methods to compute this behavior as \( n \) approaches infinity, including integration techniques and limits.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant seeks to compute \( S(n) \) and is interested in its asymptotic behavior as \( n \) approaches infinity.
  • Another participant suggests using integration by parts to derive an asymptotic for \( Li(x) \) and provides a formula for \( Li(x) \).
  • A participant questions the limit \( \lim_{x\rightarrow\infty} \frac{Li(x)}{x} \) and speculates that it may be zero, while hoping for a different outcome.
  • Another participant proposes considering the limit \( \lim_{x\rightarrow\infty} \frac{Li(x)}{x/\log(x)} \) and mentions the use of L'Hôpital's rule or inequalities for further analysis.
  • There is a discussion on estimating integrals related to \( Li(x) \) and the behavior of the integrand over different intervals.

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Participants express differing views on the limits and asymptotic behavior of \( S(n) \) and \( Li(x) \). No consensus is reached regarding the exact limits or the implications of these calculations.

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Participants do not fully resolve the assumptions behind their calculations, particularly regarding the behavior of logarithmic functions and the conditions under which their limits hold.

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How can i compute : [tex]S(n)=\sum_{k=2}^n\frac{1}{log(k)}[/tex]...I tried with the Li(x) function, but couldn't manage till the end...I just have to know the asypmtotic behaviour when n->infty.

Thanx.
 
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Did you have an asymptotic for Li(x)? If not integrating by parts might help:

[tex]Li(x)=\int_2^x\frac{dt}{\log t}=\frac{x}{\log x}-\frac{2}{\log 2}+\int_2^x\frac{dt}{(\log t)^2}[/tex]

If you already had this, please give some more details on what you've tried and where you got stuck.
 
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Ok...so more precisely my question is : what is [tex]\lim_{x\rightarrow\infty} \frac{Li(x)}{x}[/tex] ? (I suppose this should give the same as [tex]\lim_{n\rightarrow\infty}\frac{S(n)}{n}[/tex] ?)
My hope would be that this limit is not 0...but I think it is.
 
You might expect the x/log(x) term to be the 'main' term of Li(x), so you should consider the limit

[tex]\lim_{x\rightarrow\infty} \frac{Li(x)}{x/\log(x)}[/tex]

You can use l'hopital to find that limit if you like or make use of the more satisfying inequality (both using Li(x) after you've integrated by parts once-or more if you want to adapt this to a more accurate asymptotic):

[tex]\int_2^x\frac{dt}{(\log t)^2} =\int_2^{x^{1/2}}\frac{dt}{(\log t)^2}+\int_{x^{1/2}}^x\frac{dt}{(\log t)^2}=\frac{x^{1/2}-2}{(\log 2)^2}+\frac{x-x^{1/2}}{(\log x)^2/4}[/tex]

Where the integrals were estimated trivially (max of the integrand times width of the interval).
 

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