How Do Newton's Third Law and Forces Affect Hockey Player Collisions?

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The discussion revolves around a physics problem involving two hockey players colliding, focusing on the application of Newton's Third Law and the resulting forces and accelerations. The original poster expresses confusion regarding the textbook's acceleration values for each player, questioning the implications of equal and opposite forces during the collision.

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  • Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning, Assumption checking

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  • Participants explore the relationship between force, mass, and acceleration, referencing Newton's Second Law. There is a discussion on how the same force affects players of different masses differently. The original poster questions the validity of the textbook's answers in light of Newton's Third Law.

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Participants are actively engaging with the problem, providing insights into the calculations of acceleration based on mass and force. Some guidance has been offered regarding the application of the equations, but there is no explicit consensus on the original poster's confusion about the forces involved.

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The discussion highlights the complexity of interpreting forces in a collision scenario, particularly with respect to Newton's laws. There is an acknowledgment of the net force being zero while individual forces on each player are considered.

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So I have a homework question that says:
A 100 kg hockey player a 112kg hockey player collide with each other each traveling with a force of 50N.

The textbook answer says that the acceleration of the 112kg is 0.89m/s^2
and the acceleration of the 100kg player is -1.0 m/s^2.

I'm confused because according to Newton's third Law there will be equal and opposite reaction forces so wouldn't they not move? Is the textbook wrong or am I?
 
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Remember by the second law:

[tex]F = m a[/tex]

They both impart a force of 50N on each other, but the acceleration is also scaled by their masses. 50N on a 100kg person will push them farther than 50N on a 112kg person.


Imagine pushing a shopping cart with 50N. An empty shopping cart will go really far, whereas a full shopping cart will go a much shorter distance. In both instances the force is the same, but:

[tex]a = \frac{F}{m}[/tex]
 
calculating acceleration

So you do 100/100 and 100/112 even though the total of the forces equals 0 because its 50 + -50??
 
The net force of the entire system is 0, but the force on each player is of magnitude 100N. You can find the acceleration of each player using

[tex]a = \frac{F}{m}[/tex]. Knowing F = 100N and m = 100kg for person 1,

[tex]a = \frac{100N}{100kg} = 1.0m/s^2[/tex]

F = 100N and m = 112kg for person 2:

[tex]a = \frac{100N}{112kg} = 0.89m/s^2[/tex]
 
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