Find Bounds for Area of Region: r^2 = 128cos(2\theta)

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The discussion revolves around finding the area of a region defined by the polar equation r² = 128cos(2θ). Participants are exploring the appropriate bounds for integration to calculate this area.

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  • The original poster attempts to set up an integral for the area but is uncertain about the bounds. Some participants suggest that the periodic nature of cosine allows for bounds from 0 to 2π, while others propose specific ranges based on the behavior of the cosine function.

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There is an ongoing exploration of the bounds for integration, with various interpretations being discussed. Some participants provide guidance on how to approach the problem, suggesting specific ranges for θ based on the properties of the cosine function and the nature of the curve.

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Participants note that r² must be non-negative, leading to discussions about the implications of this on the bounds for θ. There is also mention of the need to consider both positive and negative values of r in relation to the area calculation.

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Find the area of the region bounded by: [tex]r^2 = 128*cos(2\theta)[/tex]

[tex]\int 1/2*(\sqrt{128*cos(2\theta)})^2[/tex]

that's my integral, but i don't know what the bounds are. i tried typing it into my calculator, but i could only find one bound(.78539816) and I am not even sure if this is even correct. can someone help me find the bounds?
 
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You know that cosine is periodic in 2pi, so theta can go from 0 to 2pi. Just by looking at it, you should be able to see that it will be a four leaf clover, and that each of the leaves will have the same area, so the total area will be 4 x the area of one. You should also be able to see that, since cosine is zero at pi/2 and 3pi/2, that one of the clover leafs will be from pi/4 to 3pi/4. And don't worry about r being negative, since the leaf created by taking r negative and theta going from pi/4 to 3pi/4 is just the leaf taking r positive going form 5pi/4 to 7pi/4, which you're already counting when taking the area of the one leaf and multiplying it by 4.

So your answer will be 4 x area of one leaf, where r is positive and theta ranges from pi/4 to 3pi/4.
 
ILoveBaseball said:
Find the area of the region bounded by: [tex]r^2 = 128*cos(2\theta)[/tex]

[tex]\int 1/2*(\sqrt{128*cos(2\theta)})^2[/tex]

that's my integral, but i don't know what the bounds are.


r^2 can not be negative, so

[tex]-\pi/4\le \theta \le \pi/4[/tex] and [tex]3\pi/4\le \theta \le 5\pi/4[/tex]

are your boundaries.

ehild
 
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How could you possibly get -64? I don't remember the formula for finding the area bounded by a curve given in polar co-ordinates, but if the formula you're using is correct, your integrand is strictly positive (it's a squared number (positive) times 1/2 (positive)).

Oh, I can't believe I didn't notice this. Something is wrong (maybe) since cosine will take on negative values on that region, but r² is positive, so I suppose it is implied that theta will only range over values where the equation makes sense. Cosine is non-negative from 3pi/2 to pi/2, so integrate from 3pi/4 to pi/4 (and not the other way around. Now, I'm guessing that if you're given r² = 128*cos(theta), maybe they want you to take the positive and negative values of r, so you'll get a 2-leafed clover. The area you need is then 2 x the area from 3pi/4 to pi/4 (of course, use 5pi/4, not pi/4), and that area is just 1/2r² d(theta), and r² is given to you, you don't have to write it as the square of a square root. You need to compute:

[tex]2\int _{\frac{3\pi }{4}} ^{\frac{5\pi }{4}} \frac{1}{2}r^2\, d\theta[/tex]

[tex]= \int _{\frac{3\pi }{4}} ^{\frac{5\pi }{4}} 128\cos (2\theta)\, d\theta[/tex]

[tex]= 64\sin (2\theta)|_ {\theta = \frac{3\pi }{4}} ^{\theta = \frac{5\pi }{4}}[/tex]

[tex]= 64\left (\sin \left (\frac{pi}{2}\right ) - \sin \left (\frac{3\pi }{2}\right )\right )[/tex]

[tex]= 128[/tex]
 

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