Solving x^2+y^2=25: Finding the Value of d^2y/dx^2 at (4,3)

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The discussion revolves around finding the second derivative of y with respect to x, specifically \(\frac{d^2y}{dx^2}\), for the equation \(x^2 + y^2 = 25\) at the point (4,3). The subject area includes implicit differentiation and calculus concepts related to derivatives.

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  • Participants explore the process of implicit differentiation to find the first and second derivatives. There are questions regarding the correctness of the calculations and the application of the quotient rule. Some participants express uncertainty about specific arithmetic steps and signs in their expressions.

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The discussion is active, with participants providing feedback on each other's calculations. Some guidance has been offered regarding potential errors in arithmetic and differentiation, but there is no explicit consensus on the correct value of \(\frac{d^2y}{dx^2}\) yet.

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Participants are working under the constraints of implicit differentiation and are checking each other's work for accuracy. There are indications of typographical errors and arithmetic mistakes that are being addressed in the discussion.

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if [tex]x^2+y^2=25[/tex], what is the value of [tex]\frac{d^2y}{dx^2}[/tex] at the point (4,3)?

[tex]x^2+y^2=25[/tex]
[tex]2x+2y\frac{dy}{dx}=0[/tex]
[tex]\frac{dy}{dx}=-\frac{2x}{2y}[/tex]
[tex]\frac{dy}{dx}=-\frac{3}{4}[/tex]
[tex]\frac{d^2y}{dx^2}=\frac{-y+\frac{dy}{dx}(-x)}{x^2}[/tex]
[tex]\frac{d^2y}{dx^2}=\frac{-3+-\frac{3}{4}(-4)}{4^2}[/tex]
[tex]\frac{d^2y}{dx^2}=0[/tex]

where did I go wrong?
 
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When you computed the 2nd derivative, I assume you used the quotient rule, but you have a typo in your denominator and you missed a sign in your second term.
 
here's what I have [tex]\frac{d^2y}{dx^2}=\frac{-y+\frac{dy}{dx}(x)}{y^2}[/tex]

is that correct?
 
[tex]x^2+y^2=25[/tex]
[tex]2x+2y\frac{dy}{dx}=0[/tex]
[tex]\frac{dy}{dx}=-\frac{x}{y}[/tex]
[tex]\frac{dy}{dx}=-\frac{4}{3}[/tex]
[tex]\frac{d^2y}{dx^2}=\frac{-y+\frac{dy}{dx}(x)}{y^2}[/tex]
[tex]\frac{d^2y}{dx^2}=\frac{-3+-\frac{4}{3}(4)}{3^2}[/tex]
[tex]\frac{d^2y}{dx^2}=-\frac{25}{27}[/tex]

is that correct?
 
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Nope,the differentiation is okay,but the arithmetics is terrible...

Daniel.
 
whoops forgot to change my previous numbers that I just copied, it's edited
 

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