What Angle Does the Angular Momentum Vector Make with the Axle?

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The discussion revolves around a problem in rotational dynamics, specifically focusing on angular momentum and its relationship with a rotating system involving rods and masses. Participants are exploring how to determine the angle that the angular momentum vector makes with the axle in a given setup.

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  • Exploratory, Assumption checking, Problem interpretation

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  • Participants discuss the calculation of angular momentum using the formula L = r x p and question the implications of the system's rotation about the vertical axle. There is uncertainty regarding the angle of the angular momentum vector and whether the masses can rotate counter-clockwise due to their weight.

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The discussion is active, with participants sharing their calculations and questioning the assumptions made about the system's motion. Some guidance has been offered regarding the use of angular momentum equations, but there is no consensus on the angle of the angular momentum vector.

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Participants are working under the constraints of a homework problem that requires careful consideration of the physical setup and the definitions of angular momentum. There is ambiguity regarding the rotational behavior of the masses and the interpretation of the angular momentum vector's direction.

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I solved for 2 correctly but I can't figure out what to do for #3 Any help would be much appreciated. I think it might involve L = r x p , but I'm not entirely sure.

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Two lightweight rods L = 20.5 cm in length are mounted perpendicular to a vertical axle and at 180° to each other (see figure below).

At the end of each rod is a m = 602 g mass. The rods are spaced h = 35.7 cm apart along the axle. The axle rotates at 28.7 rad/s such that the angular velocity vector points upward (+). What is the component of the total angular momentum along the axle?

3. What angle does the vector angular momentum make with the axle?
 

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Did you get [tex]2mL^2w[/tex] for part 2?

If it's only rotating about the vertical axle... then the answer in part 2 seems to be the only component so it seems to me the angle is 0.

I'm wondering if the masses are also allowed to rotate counter-clockwise (due to their weight).
 
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yes that's what I used for part two.

I tried 0 but it was wrong. So maybe they can rotate counter clockwise. How would that work?
 
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pixelized said:
I solved for 2 correctly but I can't figure out what to do for #3 Any help would be much appreciated. I think it might involve L = r x p , but I'm not entirely sure.
In general, the angular momentum of a body is not parallel to its axis of rotation. Find the total angular momentum about the center of mass by adding the angular momentum of each mass, which is given by [itex]\vec{L} = \vec{r}\times \vec{p}[/itex].
 

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