Solving Indeterminate Forms: e^∞, √∞, a^∞, 1^∞

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The discussion revolves around recognizing and understanding indeterminate forms in mathematical expressions, specifically focusing on cases such as e^∞, √∞, a^∞, and 1^∞. Participants explore the implications of these forms in limits and the application of L'Hôpital's rule.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant expresses confusion about when an expression produces an indeterminate form, specifically asking about e^∞, √∞, a^∞, and 1^∞.
  • Another participant states that e^{-\infty} equals 0 and e^{+\infty} equals +∞, while √{+\infty} also equals +∞, suggesting that 1^{\infty} requires special analysis.
  • There is a discussion about the evaluation of the limit lim_{x→∞} (√x/e^x), with one participant noting that it reduces to lim_{x→∞} (1/(2√x e^∞)) which they question as being 0*∞, an indeterminate form.
  • Participants discuss the implications of splitting the limit and how it relates to determinate forms, with one suggesting that it leads to a form of zero times zero.
  • There is a mention of the importance of understanding the graph of e^x to clarify these concepts.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express differing levels of understanding regarding the nature of indeterminate forms and the specific cases discussed. There is no consensus on the interpretation of these forms, and some participants challenge each other's reasoning.

Contextual Notes

Some participants reference the need for special analysis in certain cases, indicating that assumptions about the behavior of these expressions may depend on context or definitions not fully explored in the discussion.

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I'm having trouble recognizing when an expression produces an indeterminate form. for exampe what are the following:

[tex]e^\infty[/tex]

[tex]\sqrt{\infty}[/tex]

more generally what is

[tex]a^\infty[/tex]

[tex]1^\infty[/tex]
 
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[itex]e^{\infty}[/itex] is something unclear...

[tex]e^{-\infty}=0[/tex]

[tex]e^{+\infty}=+\infty[/tex]

[tex]\sqrt{+\infty}=+\infty[/tex]

As for [itex]1^{\infty}[/itex] and the asymptotic limit of the general exponential,they require a special analysis...

Daniel.
 
dextercioby said:
[itex]e^{\infty}[/itex] is something unclear...

[tex]e^{-\infty}=0[/tex]

[tex]e^{+\infty}=+\infty[/tex]

[tex]\sqrt{+\infty}=+\infty[/tex]

As for [itex]1^{\infty}[/itex] and the asymptotic limit of the general exponential,they require a special analysis...

Daniel.
yes i don't know why these are true
 
Which ?The ones i wrote...?Take a look at the definition of the exponential function and expecially at the graph of [tex]e^{x} [/itex].U'll see where the first 2 come from.As for the 3-rd,i think it's an "okay" operation in [tex]\bar{\mathbb{R}}[/tex].<br /> <br /> Daniel.[/tex]
 
my misunderstanding stems from this problem:

Evaluate: [tex]\lim_{x\rightarrow\infty}\frac{\sqrt{x}}{e^x}[/tex]

i have to use L' Hopital's rule and the above ruduces to this:

[tex]\lim_{x\rightarrow\infty}\frac{1}{2\sqrt{x}e^\infty}=0[/tex]

now isn't [tex]0\infty[/tex] indeterminate?
 
Could he be thinking to split up the limit:

[tex]\lim_{x\rightarrow\infty}[(\frac{1}{2\sqrt{x}})(\frac{1}{e^\infty})]=0[/tex]

but that would give the determinant form of zero times zero, which is undoubtedly zero--- not zero times infinity.
 
i didn't know that [tex]e^-\infty[/tex] was not equatl to [tex]e^\infty[/tex]
 
Well,that's because u don't know how the graph of [itex]e^{x}[/itex] looks like...


Daniel.
 
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you are totally correct. i didn't even think about looking at that graph.
 

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