Compressible Navier Stokes in cylinder coordinates

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The discussion centers around the Navier-Stokes equations for compressible flow in cylindrical coordinates, with participants exploring the necessary equations and concepts related to fluid dynamics. The scope includes theoretical aspects and mathematical formulations relevant to fluid mechanics.

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  • One participant requests the Navier-Stokes equations for compressible flow in cylindrical coordinates.
  • Another participant suggests that the requester should compute the equations themselves and provides a link to a resource, implying a need for self-directed learning.
  • A different participant shares links to resources on cylindrical coordinates, indicating a desire to assist in the understanding of the topic.
  • One participant attempts to provide the equations for the radial, angular, and z directions but acknowledges that the equations assume incompressible flow.
  • Another participant points out the oversight regarding the assumption of incompressibility in the provided equations.
  • One participant expresses frustration with the complexity of the equations and admits to struggling with mathematics.
  • A participant emphasizes the importance of understanding fundamental concepts such as gradient, curl, divergence, and partial derivatives before tackling the equations.
  • One participant acknowledges their mistake in not recognizing the request for compressible flow and reflects on their learning process.

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Participants do not reach a consensus on the appropriate equations for compressible flow, and there are multiple competing views regarding the assumptions made in the equations provided. The discussion remains unresolved regarding the specific formulation needed.

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There are limitations in the discussion regarding the assumptions of incompressibility in the equations presented, as well as the need for a solid understanding of various mathematical concepts to fully engage with the topic.

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Hello,

I need the Navier Stokes equations for compressible flow (Newtonian fluid would be ok) in cylinder coordinates. Can anybody help?

Thanks
 
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Ugh...I get queesy looking at that dex.

How about this:
Radial Direction:
[tex]\rho (\frac{\partial v_r}{\partial t} + v_r \frac{\partial v_r}{\partial r} + \frac{v_\theta}{r} \frac{\partial v_r}{\partial \theta} - \frac{v^2_\theta}{r} + v_z \frac{\partial v_r}{\partial z}) = -\frac{\partial p}{\partial r} + \rho g_r + \mu [\frac{1}{r} \frac{\partial}{\partial r}(r \frac{\partial v_r}{\partial r}) - \frac{v_r}{r^2} +\frac{1}{r^2} \frac{\partial^2 v_r}{\partial \theta^2} - \frac{2}{r^2} \frac{\partial v_\theta}{\partial \theta} + \frac{\partial^2 v_r}{\partial z^2}][/tex]

Holly crud that's a lot of typing.

Angular (theta) Direction:
[tex]\rho (\frac{\partial v_\theta}{\partial t} + v_r \frac{\partial v_\theta}{\partial r} + \frac{v_\theta}{r} \frac{\partial v_\theta}{\partial \theta} + \frac{v_r v_\theta}{r} + v_z \frac{\partial v_\theta}{\partial z}) = -\frac{1}{r} \frac{\partial p}{\partial \theta} + \rho g_\theta + \mu [\frac{1}{r} \frac{\partial}{\partial r}(r \frac{\partial v_\theta}{\partial r}) - \frac{v_\theta}{r^2} +\frac{1}{r^2} \frac{\partial^2 v_\thata}{\partial \theta^2} - \frac{2}{r^2} \frac{\partial v_r}{\partial \theta} + \frac{\partial^2 v_\theta}{\partial z^2}][/tex]

Z Direction:
[tex]\rho (\frac{\partial v_z}{\partial t} + v_r \frac{\partial v_z}{\partial r} + \frac{v_\theta}{r} \frac{\partial v_z}{\partial \theta} + v_z \frac{\partial v_z}{\partial z}) = -\frac{\partial p}{\partial z} + \rho g_z + \mu [\frac{1}{r} \frac{\partial}{\partial r}(r \frac{\partial v_z}{\partial r}) + \frac{1}{r^2} \frac{\partial^2 v_z}{\partial \theta^2} + \frac{\partial^2 v_z}{\partial z^2}][/tex]
 
:wink: That still doesn't help him too much.U assume the fluid to have an incompressible flow...


Daniel.
 
That's right, unfortunately. Thanks for the typing, anyway. And thanks for the links. I'll take it home on the weekend and try to figure it out myself. I'm bad at maths, though.
 
I'm sorry,but you haven't asked for some kindergarten stuff.You need to know what a gradient,curl,divergence,tensor,partial derivative,cylindric coordinate,... are.

I am urging you to read the construction of these equations in the 6-th volume of Landau & Lifschitz theoretical physics course:"Fluid Mechanics",Pergamon Press.Any edition.

Daniel.
 
You know...I didn't realize you had asked for compressible flow. My oops again. I really must learn how to read. Oh well. I had a nice exercise in LATex.
 

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