Can Electric Shock Cause Quicksilver Reactions in Mercury?

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The discussion revolves around the potential effects of electric shock on mercury, specifically whether it can induce reactions similar to those caused by temperature changes. Participants explore alternative methods to excite mercury and consider the implications of such reactions in different environments, including a vacuum.

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  • One participant inquires about the effects of a stun gun on mercury and whether the results would differ in a vacuum.
  • Another participant questions the meaning of "excite" in this context, suggesting that electrical stimulation of mercury vapor can produce light without relying on temperature.
  • A different participant expresses interest in fluids that expand through temperature or electrical means and return to a stable state, likening it to a thermometer's behavior.
  • Concerns are raised about the toxicity of mercury, emphasizing the need for caution in any experimental context.
  • One participant mentions the concept of alchemy in relation to mercury and suggests that modern interpretations may differ from classical views.
  • Another participant suggests that mercury may not be suitable for the intended exploration and points to research on electrically active fluids that change viscosity with current, indicating ongoing developments in related fields.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express differing views on the nature of exciting mercury and the feasibility of using it for the intended purposes. There is no consensus on whether electric shock can produce the desired effects or if mercury is the appropriate medium for such experiments.

Contextual Notes

Participants acknowledge the toxicity of mercury and the potential dangers associated with its use. There is also a mention of the historical context of alchemy, which may influence current interpretations of mercury's properties.

Who May Find This Useful

This discussion may be of interest to those exploring the properties of mercury, the effects of electrical stimulation on materials, and the development of electroactive fluids for practical applications.

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I'm trying to find out if there is another way to excite mercury other than temperature, say for instance what would the reaction be if a stungun was fired into a bucket of mercury, and would the result be the same if it happened in a vacuum? novice at this
 
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LocktnLoaded said:
I'm trying to find out if there is another way to excite mercury other than temperature

I don't know that I could help anyway, but mainly I'm not quite sure what the question is. 'Excite' how? If you mean to produce light, that's electrical stimulation of mercury vapour, not really dependent upon temperature. (Incidentally, if you're thinking of doing any experiments with mercury, be extremely careful. It's incredibly toxic and can kill you through skin absorption as well as inhalation.)
 
No, I'm not doing any experiments, just doing some pondering about over unity, what I'm looking for is a fluid that expands, by temperture or electrical means, that will go back to its smaller stable state , like a thermometer would retreat back to its bulb when it gets cooler.
 
Careful! You are almost speaking about Alchemy. Modern propaganda argues about these different phases of quicksilver.

Ah, in the USA there is an alchemical thread which uses gunpowder (not available to Mid Age practicioners) to burn the composite.

For classical alchemy, you can try Newman & Principe ' book.
 
LocktnLoaded said:
No, I'm not doing any experiments, just doing some pondering about over unity, what I'm looking for is a fluid that expands, by temperture or electrical means, that will go back to its smaller stable state , like a thermometer would retreat back to its bulb when it gets cooler.
I see. Okay then, mercury isn't the way to go. I don't have the time to find it right now, but there are people doing pretty much what you're interested in. They've come up with an electrically active fluid that changes it's viscosity according to how much current is going through it. So far they have variable shock absorbers, but I think that they're trying to expand the research in order to make artificial muscles out of the stuff. Maybe try Googling for 'electroactive fluids' or various similar things.
 

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