Revolving Ball on String Problem

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The discussion revolves around a physics problem involving a ball tied to a cord, which is being revolved in a horizontal plane. Participants are trying to determine the angle the cord makes with the vertical while considering the forces acting on the ball.

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  • Exploratory, Assumption checking, Mathematical reasoning

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  • Participants discuss the equations of motion and forces acting on the ball, specifically focusing on the tension in the cord and gravitational force. There are questions about the radius of the circular motion and how it relates to the angle. Some participants suggest rewriting the radius in terms of the angle and the length of the cord.

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There are multiple lines of reasoning being explored, with participants providing hints and suggestions for approaching the problem. Some guidance has been offered regarding the use of trigonometric identities and the half-angle identity, but no consensus has been reached on the solution.

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Participants note the complexity of the problem and the need for additional clarification on certain variables, such as the radius, which is not simply the length of the cord. There is also an acknowledgment of the original poster's struggles with the problem setup.

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Another physics question for all you smart people out there

A 0.50-kg ball that is tied to the end of a 1.5-m light cord is revolved in a horizontal plane with the cord making a certain degree with the vertical. If the ball is moving at 4.0 m/s, how can I find the angle that the cord makes with the vertical?

This one is a toughie!

I worked on this a couple of hours, but I keep on running into the same dead ends, could anyone give us some pointers?

(This is the direction I've been trying to go with no luck)

Fx = Tsin(theta) = m((v^2)/r)
Fy = Tcos(theta) - Fg = 0
 
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What does [itex]r[/itex] stand for in your equation?
 
r stands for the radius
 
r stands for the radius

Well, of course. :-p I meant what value does [itex]r[/itex] take in your equation.

EDIT: Because, you know, it's not 1.5 m.
 
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PhysicsinCalifornia said:
(This is the direction I've been trying to go with no luck)

Fx = Tsin(theta) = m((v^2)/r)
Fy = Tcos(theta) - Fg = 0
So far, so good. As I think Berislav was trying to point out, r depends on [itex]\theta[/itex]: rewrite r in terms of the length and the angle. Also, realize that [itex]F_g = mg[/itex].

Then just eliminate T and solve for the angle. Hint: You may need to use a trig identity.

(Note: We can't tell where you got stuck, since you only showed the first step in your solution.)
 
Well,

I got up to where

tan(theta)sin(theta) = 1.088

I just need to find (theta) now.

Any help?

Thanks
 
Maybe this will help:
[tex]\sin^2\theta / \cos\theta = (1 - \cos^2\theta)/ \cos\theta[/tex]
 
Yea, that was my next step.

**New info**

I was informed by my friend that I should use the half-angle identity for this!

I don't know how to answer this problem yet, but I'm getting there
 
Use what I gave you in post #7 and solve for [itex]\cos\theta[/itex]. (Rewrite the expression as a quadratic equation in [itex]\cos\theta[/itex], then solve it.)
 

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