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StonieJ
Apr24-05, 03:38 PM
I feel like I'm so close to the correct answer for this problem, but I just can't seem to bring it all together.


To find the VRMS of an AC sine wave, you use the following
forumla, where Vmax is the maximum amplitude:

VRMS = Vmax / sqrt(2)


To find the VRMS of an AC triangle wave, you use:

VRMS = Vmax / sqrt(3)


In one sentence, give a good qualitative reason why sqrt(3) is appropriate
for the triangle wave.


I have a bunch of vague and un-elegant ideas, but not really one good sentence. I've been Googling on the subject and coming up with crest factor (peak / RMS), which is sqrt(3) for triangle waves and sqrt(2) for sine waves. But I have yet to bring it all together. Any help is appreciated.

OlderDan
Apr24-05, 04:19 PM
You need to integrate the square of the wave form over one period and divide by the integration interval to find the mean square. Then you take the square root.

vincentchan
Apr24-05, 04:22 PM
because in the triangle wave, V is proportional to t... and V^2 is proportional to t^2, when you do the RMS, you need to take the squreroot of \int V^2 dt , this is where the root 3 come from

chroot
Apr24-05, 04:27 PM
Hint:

The method for calculating the "crest factor" is simple:

1) Square the function under consideration. (That's the "square" part of the term "root mean squared.")

2) Average that squared function over time; one period is enough. (That's the "mean" part.)

3) Take the square root of the result. (That's obviously the "root" part.)

For the sine wave, the RMS multiplier is thus:

\sqrt{\frac{\int_0^{2 \pi} \sin^2 x dx}{2 \pi}} = \frac{1}{\sqrt{2}}

To come up with an elegant sentence, first, recognize that 1/\sqrt{3} is smaller than 1/\sqrt{2}. Next, graph the squared triangle wave superimposed over the squared sine wave. Notice that the squared sine wave is always equal to or greater than the squared triangle wave. Thus, its time average is correspondingly larger.

- Warren