Experimenting with a Diverging Lens: Discovering the Focal Point

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The discussion revolves around an experiment involving a diverging lens, specifically focusing on how to determine the focal point and the nature of images produced by such lenses. Participants explore the characteristics of diverging versus converging lenses and the implications for image formation.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Assumption checking

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants discuss the setup of the experiment, questioning whether the same methods used for a converging lens can be applied to a diverging lens. There is also exploration of the types of images produced and the feasibility of locating the focal point using different setups.

Discussion Status

Some participants have provided insights into the differences between diverging and converging lenses, noting that diverging lenses do not produce images on a screen. There is an ongoing exploration of how to visualize virtual images and the methods to determine their location.

Contextual Notes

There is some confusion regarding the terminology used for lens types, with participants clarifying the distinction between diverging and converging lenses. Additionally, there is mention of past experiences with similar experiments that may influence current understanding.

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Hey all, I recently did an experiment using a diverging or convex lens, to produce different images according to the focal point. For the experiment I found the focal length, and set up the lens and light source at that distance. I used just paper for a screen to produce the real images created.

MY question: How could you do this experiment with a diverging lens?

Could you not do the same thing set it up in that manner, and place the lens at different spots according to the focal point? and when its infront of the focal point it produces an upright virtual, smaller image right?? just checking.

thanx!
 
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Is this a double convex lens, because a convex lens is a converging one, not a diverging one.

As for the experiment. You could as a experiment make all of the predictions of what kind of image would form at different points by your lens equations and then check them manually.
 
no like double concave, yes that's basically what i did for the converging lens, but would the same process i used work with double concave?
 
With the same experiment you can't do that with a divergin lense because a diverging lense will not produce an image on a screen so you can't find the focal point that way. This is based on my knowledge, I recently finished this unit(a month ago) and mixed up 'diverging' and 'converging' on my test so I mostlikely wrong.
 
SwAnK said:
Hey all, I recently did an experiment using a diverging or convex lens, to produce different images according to the focal point. For the experiment I found the focal length, and set up the lens and light source at that distance. I used just paper for a screen to produce the real images created.

MY question: How could you do this experiment with a diverging lens?

Could you not do the same thing set it up in that manner, and place the lens at different spots according to the focal point? and when its infront of the focal point it produces an upright virtual, smaller image right?? just checking.

thanx!

As others have noted, you cannot form images from the diverging lens on a screen. These images are referred to as virtual images because the light never gets to where these images are located. Instead, light is made to appear as if it were originating at these images. One way to locate these images is to use parallax. You need to use an object that you can see outside the edge of the lens that you can place the same distance from the lens as the virtual image. You know they are the same distance from the lens if moving your head from side to side leaves this object and the virtual image aligned. You can then measure the distance of the object to find the image distance.
 

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