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The discussion revolves around finding the minimum distance between a point in three-dimensional space and a line defined parametrically. Participants explore various methods to approach the problem, including geometric interpretations and calculus-based solutions.

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  • One participant expresses confusion about finding the normal vector to the line and seeks assistance.
  • Another participant suggests that the minimum distance is a basic concept, implying that it should be straightforward to visualize.
  • A different viewpoint notes that a single line in R^3 does not have a unique normal vector, as it lies in multiple planes, and proposes finding two points to derive a distance formula.
  • One participant provides a detailed mathematical approach using the distance formula and calculus to minimize the distance function.
  • Another participant suggests a simpler method by finding the point on the line where the normal vector from the given point intersects, indicating that this point can be expressed in terms of the parameter t.
  • A later reply confirms that the simpler method proposed was effective in solving the problem.

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Participants express differing opinions on the best approach to solve the problem, with some favoring geometric interpretations and others advocating for calculus-based methods. No consensus is reached on a single method as the best solution.

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Participants do not clarify certain assumptions, such as the specific definitions of distance or the conditions under which their proposed methods apply. The discussion includes various mathematical steps that remain unresolved.

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I'm stuck on this question... if someone could give me a hand that'd be great..

What is the minimum distance between the point (3,-2,4) and the line defined by

x = 1 + t
y = 4 - 3t
z = -2 + 2t


My approach was to find a point on the line by letting t = 1

I got (2, 1, 0)

then I found a vector between this point and the one given:

v = i -3j + 4k

Here's a picture to clarify:

mathprob.bmp.jpg


Then the distance would be the scalar projection of this vector onto the normal vecor of the line

But I'm not sure how to find the normal to the line.

Could someone show me how?

And if there's a simpler approach could you show me that too?

Thanks.
 
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Geometrically,can u see what is the minimum distance...?Come on,it's something i learned when i was 12...

Daniel.
 
A single line in R^3 doesn't have a single normal vector, since it lies on an infinite number of planes.

The way I would try this to find two points in cartesian coordinates and find the line equation in those coordinates. Then using the distance formula and some max/min calculus, minimize the distance function.
 
here is what i would try

[tex]L = \sqrt{(x_0-x_1)^2 +(y_0-y_1)^2 (z_0-z_1)^2[/tex]
[tex]L = \sqrt{(1+t-3)^2 +(4-3t+2)^2 (-2+2t-4)^2}[/tex]
[tex]= \sqrt{(t-2)^2 +(-3t+6)^2 (2t-6)^2}[/tex]
[tex]= |t-2|\sqrt{36t^2-216t+325}[/tex]

Then take the derivative in respect to t. Find the critical points, and then pick the minimum one.
 
why not do something simpler? all you need to do is to find the point Q on the line where the normal vector passing through (3,-2,4) cuts it...that point looks like (1+t,4-3t,-2+2t) for some t. that is the t you need to find...and to do that use the fact that PQ is normal to the given line...
 
^^that works, i got it.

thanks a lot mansi.
 

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