What is voltage and how does it relate to electric energy?

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The discussion revolves around the concept of voltage, its definition, and its relationship to electric energy. Participants explore various aspects of voltage, including its role in electric circuits, the behavior of electrons, and analogies to other systems. The scope includes conceptual clarifications and technical explanations related to electricity.

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  • One participant questions whether voltage can be treated as the energy "carried" by an electron and discusses the implications for electron drift and kinetic energy when electrons return to a battery.
  • Another participant defines voltage as the difference in electric potential between terminals of a source, noting the distinction between electromotive force (emf) and potential difference in an open battery.
  • A further contribution explains that electrons gain kinetic energy equal to the potential difference when traveling between capacitor plates but lose this energy upon colliding with the plates or atomic lattice in a conductor.
  • An analogy is presented comparing a coulomb of charge to a gallon of water, suggesting that voltage represents the potential energy of the charge, similar to how water pressure relates to potential energy in a water system.

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Participants express various interpretations of voltage and its implications, with no clear consensus reached on the best analogy or explanation. Multiple viewpoints on the nature of voltage and its effects on electrons are presented, indicating ongoing exploration and debate.

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Some assumptions about the behavior of electrons in different mediums and the definitions of voltage and emf are not fully resolved. The discussion includes varying levels of technical detail and conceptual understanding.

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I'm currently in college at the moment and of course in high school we did all these stuff about electricity and I got through that alright.

But now I'm getting bugged: what exactly is voltage?

Sure V = Joules/coulomb so can one treat it as the energy "carried" by an electron? If so, shouldn't this raise the eV?(but then electron drift is such a slow process). And when electrons return to battery(the plates) shouldn't it gain KE (in eV) equivalent to the voltage of the battery.(Since you are putting an electron between two charged plates)

Very newbie question, but its one of those that lingers over your head and just makes you feel that little bit uncomfortable.
 
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IntuitioN said:
If so, shouldn't this raise the eV?(but then electron drift is such a slow process). And when electrons return to battery(the plates) shouldn't it gain KE (in eV) equivalent to the voltage of the battery.(Since you are putting an electron between two charged plates)

If electrons travel (in vacuum) between the plates of a capacitor they will gain an KE of e times the potential difference when reaching the opposite plate. They will lose this KE in one collision with the opposite plate.
If electrons travels through a conductor they will collide with the atomic lattice after a very small distance (~10^-6 meter) thereby losing their gained KE. So they are slowed down all the time. In the end they still gained exactly the same energy but their speed is now much slower because of the many collisions. Does this make any sense?
Eric
 
IntuitioN said:
...what exactly is voltage?

think of a coulomb of charge as a gallon of water. then current would be gallons per second (that makes sense, no?) and voltage would be the measure of how much potential energy each gallon has. a gallon lifted up to the top of a water tower has more potential energy (the potential to do a lot of damage) than one down here on the ground. this is why water pressure can be related to voltage.

all that battery is, is a sort of pump that lifts the coulombs from a low potential energy state to a higher potential energy state.

likewise, a coulomb of charge at a high voltage (or high potential energy) can have more potential to do work (or harm) than a coulomb at low voltage.

maybe that was too basic.

r b-j
 

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