Help with Simple Harmonic Motion

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The discussion revolves around problems related to simple harmonic motion (SHM), specifically involving a block on a spring and a penny on a piston. The original poster seeks assistance in determining angular frequency, amplitude, and maximum frequency in relation to the motion described.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • The original poster attempts to find the angular frequency and amplitude using the provided positions and times, expressing uncertainty about how to derive the period. They also seek to understand the relationship between amplitude and frequency for the penny on the piston.
  • Some participants suggest analyzing the motion using the equation x = A cos(ωt), while questioning how to apply it without knowing A or ω.
  • Others propose forming a system of equations based on the given data points to extract the necessary parameters.

Discussion Status

The discussion is ongoing, with participants exploring different approaches to the problems. There is a recognition of the need to relate the parameters of SHM, but no consensus has been reached on a specific method or solution yet.

Contextual Notes

Participants note the challenge of working with unknown variables in the equations of SHM and the implications of normal force in the context of the penny's motion. The original poster expresses a lack of clarity on how to connect amplitude and frequency in their second problem.

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I need help on a couple of problems.

1. A block on a spring is pulled to the right and released at t= 0s. It passes x = 3.0 cm at t= 0.685s, and it passes x= -3.0 cm at t= 0.886s.

What is the angular frequency?

What is the amplitude?

I know what equatios I need to use, but without knowing what the period is I can't figure out how to find the frequency. Once I have the period, I know how to figure the rest out so that is where I am stuck.

2. A penny rides on top of a piston as it undergoes vertical simple harmonic motion with an amplitude of 4.0 cm. If the frequency is low, the penny rides up and down without difficulty. If the frequency is steadily increased, there comes a point at which the penny leaves the surface.

What is the maximum frequency for which the penny just barely remains in place for the full cycle?

On this question, I honestly have no idea how to solve it. I know I need to relate the amplitude and the frequency together in some fashion, but do not know how or what to use to do this.

Thanks
 
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Analyze both data given in the equation [itex]x = A \cos \omega t[/itex]

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When the normal force = 0, the penny is not in contact with the surface.
 
Maybe I am missing something, but how can you use [itex]x = A \cos \omega t[/itex] when you do not know either A or omega?
 
cde42003 said:
Maybe I am missing something, but how can you use [itex]x = A \cos \omega t[/itex] when you do not know either A or omega?

You have x and t for 2 cases, so you can form a system of 2 equations.
 

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