What are the laws of morality and who should define them?

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The discussion revolves around the concept of morality, its definition, the necessity of moral laws in society, and the question of who should define these laws. Participants explore theoretical and philosophical aspects of morality, including its relativity and dependence on scientific observation.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant seeks clarity on the definition of morality, suggesting it is a doctrine concerned with conduct.
  • Another argues that moral laws are necessary for societal functioning, positing that they help individuals conduct themselves effectively against other societies.
  • Contrarily, a different viewpoint claims that moral and ethical laws are entirely relative and that humans may be incapable of living without them, suggesting a form of anarchism.
  • There is a question about the meaning of "nature's law" and whether it implies that science should dictate moral codes, raising concerns about the implications of relying on evolving scientific observations for moral guidance.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express differing views on the necessity and relativity of moral laws, with some agreeing on the need for definitions and others contesting the idea of fixed moral codes. The discussion remains unresolved regarding the role of science in defining morality.

Contextual Notes

Participants reference various philosophical perspectives and definitions, but the discussion lacks consensus on the foundational aspects of morality and its implications for societal laws.

Bin Qasim
Hello everyone!

I have few questions.
1. What is exactly the definition of morality?
2. Why do we need some moral laws for the society?
3. If we do need laws of morality, then who should define such laws? A gov.??

I hope to get some answers about this issue.

peace out :smile:
 
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Bin Qasim said:
1. What is exactly the definition of morality?
"A doctrine or system of ideas concerned with conduct." --M-W Unabridged 3.0, sense 3 a.



2. Why do we need some moral laws for the society?
So we know how to conduct ourselves. Raymond Cattell http://www.efn.org/~callen/ToC.htm, "So we know how to conduct ourselves in order to compete well against other societies and ultimately to pass nature's tests."



3. If we do need laws of morality, then who should define such laws?
That depends upon what ever higher moral codes say. Cattell implied that it is derivable from the scientific observation that has been done so far that ultimately nature should decide what moral codes say.
 
the post above gave a good definition of morals.

for question 2, my answer is that moral and ethical laws shouldn't exist: they are completely relative. But we, humans, are too stupid to live without laws (in strong-extremist-anarchism), for the moment...
 
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I do agree with ur answers to no1 and 2. But I want to know what u meant when u said, "nature's law." Nature?? wat's that??

That depends upon what ever higher moral codes say. Cattell implied that it is derivable from the scientific observation that has been done so far that ultimately nature should decide what moral codes say.
Do u mean to say Science should be God, in religious terms? :smile: Should we only based on scientific observations? experimentation? not sure what u meant. :smile:

btw I forgot to tell you one thing. If u depend on scientific observations for laws of morality, u may have to keep changing the laws as Science is 'evolving.'
 
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